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Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by eatfruitnoteggs »

prostoalex wrote: post #156
eatfruitnoteggs wrote: post #135

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I commend your effort, but don't even try bringing up Veganism on Hacker News. I've tried to do the same and low-carb dogma ideologues lost their minds to the point logical and evidence-based dialogue became impossible. My own theory is, there is too much emotional attachment to eating meat, dairy and eggs in Americans to consider Veganism seriously. They will perform incredible mental gymnastics to justify their vio…

How do you explain France (high-fat diet, average amount of plant consumption, lowest rates of heart disease) and Mexico (diet heavily reliant on rice, beans and other plants, yet the world leader in obesity)?

How do I explain a completely made-up, non-scientific, anecdotal conjecture you've just thought up? What you're saying is ridiculous.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by prostoalex »

eatfruitnoteggs wrote: post #181
prostoalex wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you explain France (high-fat diet, average amount of plant consumption, lowest rates of heart disease) and Mexico (diet heavily reliant on rice, beans and other plants, yet the world leader in obesity)?

How do I explain a completely made-up, non-scientific, anecdotal conjecture you've just thought up? What you're saying is ridiculous.

Both of these things are not just google'able, they're wikipedia'able.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity_in_Mexico

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_paradox

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by healthnutter »

firasd wrote: post #16

Low carb is like magic for my health, fitness, and mental acuity. Reasons it's hard for me to stay on the bandwagon (1) it's more expensive to eat only meat, vegetables, eggs and fats v.s. eating stuff together with bread, rice etc. (2) Eating lots of vegetables means more fussy cooking of them (3) Carbs are nice 'comfort food' for when you're stressed.

For the inconvenience of consuming lots of veggies, may I suggest a Vitamix and water? One full veggie+water Vitamix blend in the morning can cover the entire day's veggie requirements.

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by scholia »

analog31 wrote: post #144
scholia wrote: post #76

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Cutting out most or all processed foods is a great start. There are plenty of nourishing high-fat foods that you can eat, and that are good for you. This includes eggs, avocados, salmon and mackerel, macadamia nuts etc [1] > All these things support the fact that diet is not just a biochemical problem, but a psychological and social one. Yes. Decades of experience has shown that "dieting" doesn't work, and it often r…

Thanks. That's pretty much what I've done. When I was younger, I ate better, in no small part thanks to my mom getting into healthy cooking when I was a kid, and teaching me to cook. Then I gradually got into some bad habits over the years. When I had a wake up call regarding my cardio condition, it wasn't particularly painful to mend my ways. It helped a lot that I had neither an education problem nor a culture prob…

Being able to cook -- or being willing to learn -- is a big advantage. People who eat fast food all the time are usually going to end up in a bad way.

Dieting is usually bad because people have a goal (they want to weigh X pounds).

The key thing is to change the system, not to have a goal.

Scott Adams has written a whole book (which I haven't read) and some blog posts about this, but there's a potted summary:

Why you should focus on habits and systems, not goals

https://crew.co/backstage/blog/habits-and-systems-not-goals

Re: Medical guidelines don’t include a diet low in carbohydrates

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Post by flipchart »

EpicEng wrote: post #163
firasd wrote: post #16

Low carb is like magic for my health, fitness, and mental acuity. Reasons it's hard for me to stay on the bandwagon (1) it's more expensive to eat only meat, vegetables, eggs and fats v.s. eating stuff together with bread, rice etc. (2) Eating lots of vegetables means more fussy cooking of them (3) Carbs are nice 'comfort food' for when you're stressed.

It really doesn't have to be an all or nothing proposition though. Have you tried sticking mainly to low GI carbs, e.g., sweet potatoes, whole grain breads, etc? It takes a lot longer to digest these foods and, as a result, you get a smooth energy release instead of a huge insulin spike. I've been into fitness, mostly around powerlifting and contact sports, for most of my life. Your body needs carbs; the problem is t…

This paper [1] shows that the glycemic index is not necessarily a reliable indicator for an individual's insulin response

[1]: http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/early/2016/09/06/ajcn.116....

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