Video of his RNC speech on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVHoGiSCfmU (6 mins)
The Strange Politics of Peter Thiel, Trump’s Most Unlikely Supporter
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It had everything to do with race. The thing is, Irish were not considered white! They were sub-human, ape-like, violent alcoholics. Many English viewed them as such, and brought that viewpoint with them to the US. ... Racism doesn't have to make sense. And 1 in 8 is super-low for a settler nation. It's also only slightly higher then the average European state.
Historically the stereotype of the Irish as being less educated, violent (esp. domestic violence) and alcoholic is accurate. I say that as an Irish person. We've made considerable progress since in the late 20th century to the present, and now we are better in most metrics than the British (and perhaps they have also fallen), but don't imagine we were all sweetness and light in the past. Present day Irish have underg…
There's a black academic, Thomas Sowell, who argues the same thing applies to US black culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liber...
Re: The Strange Politics of Peter Thiel, Trump’s Most Unlikely Supporter
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Historically the stereotype of the Irish as being less educated, violent (esp. domestic violence) and alcoholic is accurate. I say that as an Irish person. We've made considerable progress since in the late 20th century to the present, and now we are better in most metrics than the British (and perhaps they have also fallen), but don't imagine we were all sweetness and light in the past. Present day Irish have underg…
There's a black academic, Thomas Sowell, who argues the same thing applies to US black culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liber...
Yes I've heard his position before.
It is probably correct but very difficult to solve for, it can take centuries, which is not what most people want to hear. Cultural shifts are faster than biological evolution but are not always as fast as many people suppose.
Personally I believe in the use of eugenics for both blacks and whites in order to create an improved type of human. We know high IQ has, among others, the side affect of sharply declining propensity for violent crime. We know people with good health are able to think longer term than the sickly.
This goes way beyond the usual discussions but I think it is on the table whether people like it or not. I realize that the majority of people think this issue was laid to rest mid-twentieth century, but it is obvious those questions were always going to come back and it is only a matter of time. We've already been doing moderated forms of eugenics for decades except we've given it a hundred other names.
Re: The Strange Politics of Peter Thiel, Trump’s Most Unlikely Supporter
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Perhaps, but my point is that residents of a country will always oppose immigrant groups, regardless of their origin. It's not necessarily racism. I know people who oppose immigrants. They don't believe hispanics are an inferior race or anything like that. They are mainly concerned about American jobs being taken by the immigrants. You can't use "racism" as a fully general insult against anyone that disagrees with yo…
> residents of a country will always oppose immigrant groups This is pile of nonsense. The elected representatives from the Democratic Party don't show hate towards immigrants and have generally fought their betterment, and the Democratic Party won the popular vote in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. That's five out the last six elections. There was a huge amount of European immigration in the 1800s , and the early…
>This is pile of nonsense. The elected representatives from the Democratic Party don't show hate towards immigrants and have generally fought their betterment, and the Democratic Party won the popular vote in 1992, 1996, 2000, 2008, and 2012. That's five out the last six elections.
Because the democrats 1) benefit from immigrants since they tend to vote democrat and 2) represent Northerners and the upper middle class, who aren't threatened by immigrants economically.
>There was a huge amount of European immigration in the 1800s , and the early 1900s. Just as there was anti-Irish sentiment, I'm sure there were people back then who believed deeply in the Lump of Labor Fallacy[1], but their will was never put into effect as law.
The economy was totally different then. It was much more agricultural based, which isn't as threatened by immigrant labor. Unemployment was nowhere near as high as today. There was a general trend of economic progress that could support the immigrants, and even benefited from their labor.
>If people freaking out about jobs had put the same limits we have on immigration today back in 1800, the U.S. population would likely be the same as Canada's, and our total GDP less than one-tenth of what it is today. We probably also wouldn't have had the economic might to win World War I and World War II, or the Cold War (e.g. Marshall Plan[2]).
Possibly. The US population growth was pretty high until recent times. Much higher than in Europe. And population size alone is not the only factor in GDP. Especially today in the age of automation.
Re: The Strange Politics of Peter Thiel, Trump’s Most Unlikely Supporter
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There's a black academic, Thomas Sowell, who argues the same thing applies to US black culture https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Rednecks_and_White_Liber...
Yes I've heard his position before. It is probably correct but very difficult to solve for, it can take centuries, which is not what most people want to hear. Cultural shifts are faster than biological evolution but are not always as fast as many people suppose. Personally I believe in the use of eugenics for both blacks and whites in order to create an improved type of human. We know high IQ has, among others, the s…
Eugenics is silly in an age where parents can edit the DNA of their babies. We have the technology to do this now, it just isn't widely available yet.
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>...a billionaire proposing tax cuts for the super wealthy is "fighting the system" is a delusional.... You act as if Trump is only helping the rich. Trump is helping everyone. Although he cut taxes for the rich, he also cut taxes for the poor. Under Trump's tax plan, poor people don't even pay tax. If you're single and you make less than $25,000 per year, you don't pay tax. If you have a wife and you make less than…
And there will be gigantic deficits that somehow will be compensated by some future economic growth.
>And there will be gigantic deficits that somehow will be compensated by some future economic growth.
It will be compensated by making the country rich and wealthy again. A rich and wealthy country will be able to pay off the deficits and national debt.
How will Trump make the country rich and wealthy again?
By making it more profitable for companies to do businesses in the United States, so companies will start doing businesses in the United States again. Which means jobs. Which means more people have money. And with more people with more money to tax, the government will get more money even though the tax is lower. Because there are more people to tax. Also, with more companies doing business in the United States, although the tax is lower, the government get more money.
When people have more money to spent, they buy more stuff, which means businesses make more money, which means more profits, more jobs, and higher pay. Which means more money for workers. It is an upward cycle. The economy goes up.
And also, make the country rich again, by doing better trade deals where America doesn't actually lose money. Where the United States actually make money, in those deals.
Also, by taxing or stopping remittance money sent to Mexico by illegals in the United States. Every year, illegals (who don't pay federal taxes) send back $28 billion dollar to Mexico. In other word, money is flowing out of the United States into Mexico. Trump wants to tax it to pay for the wall (hence, the saying Mexico will pay for the wall). This again, will create jobs.
Trump will do this and many other things to make America wealthy and rich again. All this information are on his website. It's all part of his plan to Make America Great Again.