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Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by bydo »

rsync wrote: post #179

It may interest folks to know that all Sega Saturn games have their audio encoded as plain old CD audio tracks. You can put your Sega Saturn disc into any old CD player and play all of the music tracks. You can also rip a sega saturn CD in your computer. I particularly enjoy the music from Sega Rally Championship and Virtua Fighter 2.

Many, but certainly not all. Redbook audio (along with tons of grainy low resolution FMV) was more common in the earlier days of the CD-ROM, when creators were trying to justify the format, but hadn't figured out more interesting ways to make use of the space.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by Gracana »

reitoei wrote: post #138
ZenoArrow wrote: post #137

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I tried looking for those videos but haven't found them yet, do you have a link?

Poster meant 'Coastermelt': http://www.misc.name/coastermelt/

Whoops, yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Thanks.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by thomasfl »

apecat wrote: post #163

Wow. I certainly hope someone with a lot of power over company culture at, say, Apple is watching this. And that they get inspired to think about cultural preservation. I really think it should be a standard act of corporate responsibility and platform stewardship to make it so that work like that of Professor Abrasive's, is not the only spare key we have to current culture a few decades down the road. We as a global…

Yes, there will be a day when nobody is using iPhones anymore. Hopefully our ancestor will still be able to run some of the apps in the future. Social media apps are off course thin clients.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by city41 »

jandrese wrote: post #174
Frenchgeek wrote: post #149

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Does the Rhea have write support too?

I doubt it. As I understand it, it emulates the CD-ROM hardware and doesn't even touch the drive controller chip.

Exactly. So yeah, the Rhea is a slightly different product. But for most people, being able to write is not important.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by bydo »

city41 wrote: post #120
seanc722 wrote: post #97

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Indeed! There are mod chips, etc. He ended up aiming for something that didn't require ripping it open and soldering.

The Rhea/Phoebe require no soldering. Just pop out the CD drive, pop in the Rhea. Very simple.

Looking at the installation instructions, the Rhea claims to require some soldering. The Phoebe doesn't, but still requires disassembling the system. They also each only work on specific versions of the hardware (20- vs 21-pin), and which version a specific Saturn is may not be obvious without disassembly.

The nice thing about this new solution, even ignoring that it furthers public understanding of the hardware, is that it's a simple module that plugs into a slot already available and accessible on every Saturn ever sold by SEGA (presumably it won't work on the Hi-Saturn units made by Hitachi, as they had the MPEG hardware integrated, though they are also very rare and very expensive).

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by tlrobinson »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #147
JoshTriplett wrote: post #117

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Nobody would test that version, so it wouldn't work. Submission of complete source code, on the other hand, could help.

>Submission of complete source code // But you'd still need to have the build process, so really you'd need submission of the full dev environment. But then you might also need the hardware to run it ... Personally I think it should be copyright protection or DRM: the demos doesn't get the DRM stuff to enter the public domain so strictly speaking DRM stuff can't be copyright as the deal of time-limited monopoly is br…

> "Personally I think it should be copyright protection or DRM"

Yeah, I like that. Sort of like how something can be a trade secret or patented but not both.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by [deleted] »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #147
JoshTriplett wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody would test that version, so it wouldn't work. Submission of complete source code, on the other hand, could help.

>Submission of complete source code // But you'd still need to have the build process, so really you'd need submission of the full dev environment. But then you might also need the hardware to run it ... Personally I think it should be copyright protection or DRM: the demos doesn't get the DRM stuff to enter the public domain so strictly speaking DRM stuff can't be copyright as the deal of time-limited monopoly is br…

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Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by mywittyname »

skoczymroczny wrote: post #144
jonhohle wrote: post #66

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I'm going through this as a relatively new PS Vita owner. Sony decided to go with proprietary game cartridges, proprietary memory cards, and DRM'd digital distribution. Despite the quality of the games and hardware, the system didn't do well commercially and it appears Sony has lost interest in the system and it's sibling PS TV/Vita TV. There are a lot of great games (including PS1 and PSP games) for the system, but…

Players overwhelmingly vote with their wallets in favour of DRM. Just wait until some day Steam servers get shut off, the backlash will be massive.

Maybe not. There are lots of things to consider, such as:

* Windows falls out of popular use for residential people / People moving away from using PCs as we know it.

* Steam client not being available for the mainstream OS of the day.

* Most of the games in your library not working with the the mainstream OS of the day.

* A new platform replaces Steam and it has newer remakes of classic games.

* We are all in our 50-60s and lost access to our accounts long ago because we don't play games anymore.

Steam probably won't be killed off in one day. It will die gradually as it falls into disuse.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by city41 »

bydo wrote: post #185
city41 wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Rhea/Phoebe require no soldering. Just pop out the CD drive, pop in the Rhea. Very simple.

Looking at the installation instructions, the Rhea claims to require some soldering. The Phoebe doesn't, but still requires disassembling the system. They also each only work on specific versions of the hardware (20- vs 21-pin), and which version a specific Saturn is may not be obvious without disassembly. The nice thing about this new solution, even ignoring that it furthers public understanding of the hardware, is…

The Rhea doesn't actually require soldering as Dominik will do the soldering first before shipping. For sure having to know 20 versus 21 pin is a pain. But the Rhea/Phoebe have a huge advantage of being here now and known to be very reliable (they work flawlessly). Not discounting this new approach, it seems very promising, but just pointing out there's already a solution available today for those who didn't realize.

Re: Sega Saturn CD Cracked after 20 Years

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Post by mavendependency »

voltagex_ wrote: post #124
Benjamin_Dobell wrote: post #122

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I live in Australia and wrote Heimdall[1], an open-source reverse engineered tool for flashing Samsung phones. I can assure you, I am not looking forward to the TPP! [1] https://github.com/Benjamin-Dobell/Heimdall

Thanks for Heimdall. Samsung really don't seem to like developers that much, and Heimdall was a godsend when I had an S3.

What's wrong with odin? Other than the moral aspects of using leaked software?
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