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Re: UK votes to leave EU

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I have never felt less British than I do right now. :(

Can I ask why? The public spoke in completely free and democratic manner, against everything so called "experts" said. I thought this was a staple of being British?

Maybe the OP is Scottish?

Scotland had a pretty clear Remain vote.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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I had been following the likelihood of a Brexit on Bloomberg. Before polls opened today, they said there was a 25% chance of the UK leaving. Seems they were quite, quite wrong. http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-brexit-watch/

Why? 25% is a very significant chunk.

You'd expect the 25% option to happen more often than just now and then.

25% of the time, actually.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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As other comments have noted, the point is that the EU will not want to give the UK a good deal on leaving, because the EU does not want to give any encouragement to the other countries which want to leave the EU (some of which want to leave more strongly than the UK do - apparently). Secondly, why would the UK end up with a Norway or Switzerland deal, when the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world? This is unpr…

The EU will not want to (give the UK a good deal) but for each trade area there will be a member state suffering if they won't.

The negotiations themselves may prove a good catalyst for further disarray.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Is Scotland going to be exiting the UK next? Guess we'll see in a few years. Hard to know what will happen here, but I suspect once the UK (or what's left of it) signs a trade deal with the EU, they'll get the same deal as Norway - all the compliance with EU regulations, with none of the say. I suppose people may be happy with that deal, as long as they can get to say they're "free". I'm hoping this somehow leave the…

Scotland coming back to the EU would be great, but not easy, since lots of EU countries would be willing to prevent it in order to make an example for their own separatist regions (Catalonia / Basque Country in Spain, for example)

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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But you assume that people in the UK have an alternative to those German cars. They don't. Germany makes better cars than anyone else. Brits will still buy them, they will just now be more expensive. Two words: British Leyland

> Germany makes better cars than anyone else

Sure. Like those excellent Volkswagon diesel vehicles that are vastly more efficient than their Japanese competitors.

Edit: I thought my sarcasm would be clear. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_emissions_scandal

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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As other comments have noted, the point is that the EU will not want to give the UK a good deal on leaving, because the EU does not want to give any encouragement to the other countries which want to leave the EU (some of which want to leave more strongly than the UK do - apparently). Secondly, why would the UK end up with a Norway or Switzerland deal, when the UK is the 5th largest economy in the world? This is unpr…

The largest importer of champange in the world? UK. Not per capita either... just the largest, in front of the US. The UK has a ton of money for luxuries and all kinds of things that the healthier economies of the EU desperately want access to.

How much champagne will England be buying when the City decamps to Frankfurt?

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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It's amazing that such deep constitutional change will be achieved with such a slim majority. 48% of British people will be ejected out of the EU essentially against their will. The UK has always embraced first past the post voting, but it really shows here how it creates very discontinuous inflection points.

This is the most shocking thing to me. It's almost non-negliible. It makes me feel slightly better about living in a republic like the US as opposed to a direct democracy.

This is not direct democracy. This referendum is not legally binding. In theory, the government could ignore this result. However, all major parties have stated they would follow the result.

There will be discussion about how soon to file the request to leave, though (actually, that is being discussed on the BBC right now. Problem is that the rules say that, after the request is made, a country must leave within two years. It may be smarter to make sure one can comply with that schedule before formally applying for an exit. Also, they were talking about timing the formal request w.r.t. upcoming elections in France and Germany)

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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As some people already said, even if the vote will be 'Leave' the Parliament most likely will not consider it and will not part ways with the EU siting some made-up problems, that "prohibit" the exit right away. Await another referendum until the necessary results are obtained.

Not so sure on this one: one thing that the UK is an example of is its respect for democracy. I hope the parliament accepts this non-binding vote, and take the necessary steps to swiftly break with the EU. We in the EU can then proceed unhindered.

> Not so sure on this one: one thing that the UK is an example of is its respect for democracy

Ha! Let's remind each other about this conversation in 3 months and review our arguments.

Re: UK votes to leave EU

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Is Scotland going to be exiting the UK next? Guess we'll see in a few years. Hard to know what will happen here, but I suspect once the UK (or what's left of it) signs a trade deal with the EU, they'll get the same deal as Norway - all the compliance with EU regulations, with none of the say. I suppose people may be happy with that deal, as long as they can get to say they're "free". I'm hoping this somehow leave the…

I predict the UK flag will change in 10 years or less. Scotland will hold a referendum to leave the UK for the EU.

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Re: UK votes to leave EU

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What does mean for the US economy in terms of exports to the UK and larger EU countries? The pound drops sharply (~15%). The Euro down to $1.08. Does this mean that a stronger dollar will negatively impact US exports?
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