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She knew what she was doing
No, she didn't, on many levels. Her underlings should have known better, but if a 68-year-old politician knew anything about internet security practices, I'd vote for them!
Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
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Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
No nefarious plot. My understanding is that it went roughly like this. Back in 2009 Clinton requested a secure smartphone from the NSA. It's a custom made device (security by obscurity?). Anyway, the president gets one. As the secretary of state she has to travel a lot, and not being able to do email on the road is highly impractical. So she thought she should get one too. The NSA denied her request for a secure smar…
This narrative doesn't address the fact that Clinton was actively opposed to FOIA requests and had sought means to keep her public work private as much as possible. Following common sense here, her decision to ignore State Department regulations (which she lied about) and participate in classified communications (which she also lied about) on a private server immediately after she had made efforts to minimize public…
I'll admit, I'd love to see nothing more than for her to go to prison (and I am expecting downvotes for this) - but I don't think it's going to be for perjury unless I missed something.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the NSA wanted to give her a secure Windows Mobile (or whatever it was called back then) phone, which may have been better supported. They also mention security issues with Blackberry, presumably even if they tried to make it "secure" themselves. If I remember correctly, they didn't want to allow Obama to use a Blackberry either back then, but he was a big fan of Blackberries and said he couldn't use the much…
The Blackberry alternative that was suggested to Obama was the Sectera Edge by General Dynamics, which made the F-16 before it was sold to Lockheed http://www.networkworld.com/article/2234082/what-obama-won-t...
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
No nefarious plot. My understanding is that it went roughly like this. Back in 2009 Clinton requested a secure smartphone from the NSA. It's a custom made device (security by obscurity?). Anyway, the president gets one. As the secretary of state she has to travel a lot, and not being able to do email on the road is highly impractical. So she thought she should get one too. The NSA denied her request for a secure smar…
I never really understood why the NSA couldn't have provided her with some sort of handheld digital device that wasn't that Windows CE PDA. I also don't understand why Clinton didn't just opt to use it. Having used the WinCE devices before, they're not all that bad to do email on. They're not good, but how much worse would it have been compared to a BB? I used a UT Starcomm PP6700 (or something like that) and I even…
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a bit of a myth that's come about when compared to Sanders. In reality, her voting record is around the 70th percentile most liberal out of Democrat senators (referring to her last year). http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/hillary-clinton-was-liber...
This is a strange election. We have a Democrat who is pro-war, anti gay marriage, and backed by Saudis and wall Street.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
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conspiracy theory.
Isn't one of the main arguments against dragnet surveillance the possibility for the surveiling agency to blackmail the politicians who write the laws limiting its power? The same argument surely applies to targeted surveillance...
but after all, it _is_ a conspiracy theory because there would be at least two parties involved conspiring to blackmail. sheep also don't get what the term actually means.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
>And the article lists various reasons why none of those would likely apply to her. I guess we have different definitions of "likely" since the only reasons given are: (1) Clinton and her aides have insisted that she didn't. They say none of her emails included material that was marked as classified at the time. (2) She says she didn't, and there's no known evidence that she did. (3) "If all she was doing was exchang…
1) That's because it's fact that none of her emails were marked as classified at the time. Not an opinion! 2) Her email exchanges are public. You would think they would have found proof of willful communication by now. They have not. 3) Requires intent, which is generally, objectively difficult to prove (see: libel laws).
Given her habit of asking staffers to remove the classification markings, that's a bit facile.
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
This narrative doesn't address the fact that Clinton was actively opposed to FOIA requests and had sought means to keep her public work private as much as possible. Following common sense here, her decision to ignore State Department regulations (which she lied about) and participate in classified communications (which she also lied about) on a private server immediately after she had made efforts to minimize public…
Forgive me, but I have only casually followed this. Perjury requires she falsify her testimony under oath, has there actually been a formal deposition from Clinton under oath? I'll admit, I'd love to see nothing more than for her to go to prison (and I am expecting downvotes for this) - but I don't think it's going to be for perjury unless I missed something.
See also: http://time.com/3628324/torture-congress-lying-hayden/
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#189Among the more disappointing things in all of this is that there is a rational, important conversation to be had about everyday awareness of security and government inflexibility. But there won't be, because she is Hillary Clinton and it is 2016. Supposedly she got the server set up because the NSA refused to give a politician who travels frequently a secure smartphone. She (I personally believe) was likely ignorant…
Re nefarious motivations. The server and its location weren't just used for diplomatic stuff. There are nefarious things going on. She worked hard to block any FOIA requests or supeonas that would enlighten us more. The mark of an honest politician or nonprofit. ;)
Re: Did the Clinton Email Server Have an Internet-Based Printer?
#190Earlier quoted context omitted.
Difficult to know for sure. Obama had one, Rice previously used one, but: The NSA refused to give Clinton a device similar to the one used by Obama: a modified BlackBerry 8830 World Edition with additional cryptography installed. And while Clinton's predecessor Condaleeza Rice had obtained waivers for herself and her staff to use BlackBerry devices, Clinton's staff was told that "use [of the BlackBerry] expanded to a…
>Clinton's staff was told that "use [of the BlackBerry] expanded to an unmanageable number of users from a security perspective if you don't provide a secure way to get shit done, motivated individuals will figure out how to get shit done, security be damned. happens every time. that's what happened here.