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Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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post #103

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Nearly no web framework is per request multi core (e.g. multi core HTML / JSON rendering, assuming backend operations already async). So each request will be slow. [Edit:] Not sure for the downvote, would be interested what's wrong in my comment.

Go's net/http framework uses a go routine per connection.

every http server does that. it's still one routine/process/thread per request. and that's what the comment you're replying to said.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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If nbench only uses 1 core, yes, my comparison is wrong. Is there a similar benchmarking linux tool that can use many cores? edit: instance is a t2.micro

I don't think the comparison is wrong per se; this actually makes it a bit easier, since you're just comparing one core to another. The only thing that I think is problematic is comparing a t2 to anything else, since that CPU performance is not sustainable as it might be elsewhere. m3 and m4 (and other instance types @ aws) are not explicitly throttled. (Source: AWS Solutions Architect) We're running a portion of our…

I assumed nbench uses all the available cores, that's why I said I'm wrong. On a 1 core basis, yes, it's useful, and I get that this t2 instance is not a stable baseline. I only have that available right now, as my free credit.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

Benchmark from Intel i7 desktop

  CPU                 : 8 CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM)   i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3910MHz
  L2 Cache            : 8192 KB
  OS                  : Linux 3.16.0-55-generic
  C compiler          : gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-  2ubuntu1~14.04.1)
  libc                : libc-2.19.so
  MEMORY INDEX        : 58.235
  INTEGER INDEX       : 52.421
  FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 79.472
  Baseline (LINUX)    : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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post #183

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Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

Benchmark from Intel i7 desktop CPU : 8 CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz 3910MHz L2 Cache : 8192 KB OS : Linux 3.16.0-55-generic C compiler : gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4- 2ubuntu1~14.04.1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 58.235 INTEGER INDEX : 52.421 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 79.472 Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

Here's a Intel Core i5 2.7Ghz on a MacBook Pro (Retina, 13-inch, Early 2015) compiled with clang (had to edit the makefile a bit):

    CPU                 :
    L2 Cache            :
    OS                  : Darwin 15.3.0
    C compiler          : Apple LLVM version 7.0.2 (clang-700.1.81)
    libc                :
    MEMORY INDEX        : 49.009
    INTEGER INDEX       : 41.947
    FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 92.671
    Baseline (LINUX)    : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#185

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I'm happy to run any benchmarks people like (within reason). I can also compare to most AWS instances if you like.

Please run nbench [1]. I ran it on the C1 in April 2015 and got the following results: CPU : 4 CPU L2 Cache : OS : Linux 3.2.34-29 C compiler : gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) libc : libc-2.19.so MEMORY INDEX : 5.859 INTEGER INDEX : 8.164 FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 5.770 For comparison, here are an Intel Atom N450, a Core 2 Duo L7500 and a Raspberry Pi 1 Model B: CPU : Dual GenuineIntel Intel(R) Atom(TM)…

Benchmark for 20 euro Kimsufi(16BG Ram/1tb disk):

CPU : 4 CPU GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570S CPU @ 3.10GHz 3706MHz

L2 Cache : 6144 KB

OS : Linux 3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64

C compiler : gcc version 4.8.4 (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.1)

libc : libc-2.19.so

MEMORY INDEX : 51.103

INTEGER INDEX : 48.049

FLOATING-POINT INDEX: 68.238

Baseline (LINUX) : AMD K6/233*, 512 KB L2-cache, gcc 2.7.2.3, libc-5.4.38

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#187

If you do CPU-intensive work on these servers, might not the electricity cost surpass the 0.02/hour income? Example: if a kWh costs 0.10, then to have something burning 200W costs 0.02 per hour. (Someone substitute real-ish numbers.)

These are Atom based chips with integrated graphics and SSDs. You're not going to pull 200W from them no matter how hard you try.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

#188
I already have Scaleway account. I just finished some benchmarks on their starter vps and looks very interesting price per performances. Cores are dedicated, based on Intel C2750 (on /proc/cpuinfo). I have approx 23% more performances on cpu and iops than DO $20 plan. For equivalent $2.70 price, its 8-9 times less expansive for more performances. It's time for me to think about migration :-)

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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post #33

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> I doubt that Just tried for a few minutes all 3 of them. The C2S is a C2550, and the C2M and C2L are C2750. They each appear to be bare metal, and not virtualized. The VPS offering, which is advertised as a VPS, appears to be virtualized inside of a C2750. The C1 is a Marvell Armada 370/XP, a bare metal ARMv7l board. > I would consider their offers "ad-supported". This also is not my experience. I haven't ever rece…

> They each appear to be bare metal, and not virtualized How can you tell?

This can usually be determined heuristically:

* loaded drivers may be named after the virtualization platform (VMware)

* CPUs can be reported as "Virtual" in /proc/cpuinfo

* Special files in /proc (for instance "vz" for OVZ)

* Kernel name

* etc.

Re: C2: Affordable X86-64 Servers

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Avotons are very slow, an 8C SoC will typically be slower than an 8 year old 2C desktop CPU (I ran Go builds as a benchmark on my own 2.4 GHz C2750 vs. a 2008 iMac with 2.8 GHz Core 2 Duo). As for Scaleway, some people seem to like it very much, but I found their policy about spamming their users problematic. They (online.net) mock you at registration with a sleazy checked and disabled box for receiving spam ("produc…

Not based on SuperMicro MicroBlades, home R&D design : https://twitter.com/scaleway/status/707617919434412034

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