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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Why would MS want to extinguish a successful technology that they just bought?

I thought that with Skype, then Nokia.

Nokia was not successful (by any definition of the word) by the time Microsoft bought it.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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This is giant news for the .NET ecosystem. It means that MS is serious about their push into Mobile and Linux, and that .NET developers aren't going to have to work with Xamarin's ever-so-slightly-behind libraries anymore. It also means that MS now produces an IDE on Linux, which is a crazy change from 10 years ago.

> It means that MS is serious about their push into Mobile and Linux Mobile OK but Linux? Currently on the HN frontpage theres an article about how Skype for Linux hasn't been updated for years and "is unable to join calls": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11165568

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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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MS already have one; Visual Studio Code. The crazy has been coming a while.

It's a text editor though and doesn't focus on being a full featured IDE. I think a Cross Platform text editor is definitely a must have regardless though. I just wish it had debugging (or at least just execution) natively without me having to find a plugin, sort of how Geany runs / compiles anything I throw at it without much (if ever) effort.

It does have built-in debugging, although it might not support the targets you're working with. However, it is still less than a year old + only at version 0.10.x...

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Embrace a new technology Extend with proprietary functionality Extinguish the competition

You make absolutely no sense. The competition for .Net isn't Xamarin. It's the Java platform.

Maybe their strategy is to bundle the Bing toolbar with the Xamarin installer.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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or its embrace extend extinguish?

Nonsense. The last 5 years show it's a whole new Microsoft. Disclaimer: I have been one of the ones pushing the last 5 years to make that statement true. ;)

It worries me more that Microsoft has a track record of abandoning developer tools for the next shiny thing.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Do apps written in C# with Xamarin perform better than those written in React Native? What are the differences?

React Native applications will be faster to develop thanks to React being inherently fast to develop. I would expect a React Native app to perform the same or better than Xamarin, due to React Native's asynchronous bridge approach. I don't have data to back this up, though.

JS apps being faster to develop than C# ? Maybe prototype, but .NET/C# are superior dev platforms in every way.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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or its embrace extend extinguish?

Nonsense. The last 5 years show it's a whole new Microsoft. Disclaimer: I have been one of the ones pushing the last 5 years to make that statement true. ;)

Nonsense. The last 5 years shows that Microsoft isn't quite sure about it yet. Better? Yes. A "whole new Microsoft"? No.

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Xamarin actually works quite well. Microsoft will definitely bring in more quality as they have huge amounts of resources not only in cash but in talented people. This news is important because it solidifies the future of the .Net ecosystem in iOS, OSX, Android, Linux and Windows. The Xamarin team has been doing a great job, but I am pretty sure that with Microsoft backing them they'll do a way better job.

"Works quite well" is a phrase I've never used with Xamarin. I stopped using it about a year ago for two reasons: (1) _every_single_release_ would break my apps and would then require spending inordinate amounts of time trying to get things building again, and (2) I could no longer justify paying for the professional edition just to be able to use Visual Studio on my hobby projects. I am very much hoping that both of…

Relevant http://www.estaun.net/blog/some-thoughts-after-almost-a-year...

Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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Eh Visual studio code is not an IDE. Last time I used it the C# support was pretty bad.

Yeah, it doesn't have debugging (of C# on Mac and Linux). I think the GP is referring to Xamarin Studio, which is an ok IDE, but pales in comparison to VS.

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Re: Microsoft Acquires Xamarin

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post #93

This is giant news for the .NET ecosystem. It means that MS is serious about their push into Mobile and Linux, and that .NET developers aren't going to have to work with Xamarin's ever-so-slightly-behind libraries anymore. It also means that MS now produces an IDE on Linux, which is a crazy change from 10 years ago.

> It means that MS is serious about their push into Mobile and Linux Mobile OK but Linux? Currently on the HN frontpage theres an article about how Skype for Linux hasn't been updated for years and "is unable to join calls": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11165568

They want devs to write for Linux because they are a services company who make money from Azure VMs including those that run Linux.

They don't want end users to run Linux desktop.

So devtools/languages/cloud divisions inside Microsoft like Linux.

Those in ms who deal with end user applications (home users in this case, as ms push Lync to business) probably see little point in investing in development in Skype for Linux.

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