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Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #57

If anyone wants to improve the usability, data files are: http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/job-... http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2016-who-marries-whom/pair...

I'd recommend popping this into your console.

$('.job-text').css({color: 'black'})

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

Parkland?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#183
post #83

So Software Developers marry mostly within their own group? How does it stack with the gender imbalance?

Doesn't mean mostly (majority), just means the largest block. If 10% of software devs are married to other software devs, and the remaining 90% are scattered across 100 professions with no single pairing exceeding 10%, then devdev marriages will show as the largest.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#184
post #71

Yoga instructor is missing. That's pretty much the ideal wife (lots of free time, unreasonably fit), and I'd like to know what job to obtain in order to be pursued by yoga instructors. And DJ is missing. Which prevents us from confirming the hypothesis that DJ's do better than JD's. http://longorshortcapital.com/short-jds.htm Most men seek the JD to “make a lot of money” which is really just a euphemism for “power ov…

> Most men seek the JD to “make a lot of money” which is really just a euphemism for “power over women.” The first sentence is so wrong, I can't even bother reading on.

Just curious - how do you find this wrong? What utopia do you live in where money does not confer power?

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

S Tacoma, wow, she must be a saint :)

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Most common occupation in the US, I believe.

Till autonomous cars take their jobs...

Well when CGI takes the models' jobs they'll have plenty of time to hang out

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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post #10

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As far as I can tell most groups seem to marry Elementary school teachers

Part of the problem is that each profession isn't scaled to how many people are in it. "47-5031 Explosives Workers, Ordnance Handling Experts, and Blasters" had a total employment of 7,970 in 2012, but there were 1,353,020 people employed as "25-2021 Elementary School Teachers, Except Special Education" http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes475031.htm http://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes252021.htm

Yeah it says male software developers are most likely to marry female teachers or administrative assistants, like practically every other majority-male profession. Would be more interesting to show trends relative to males in others professions rather than in absolute numbers.

(edit: replace 'male' with 'majority-male' as I didn't mean to sound 1950s, just meant the left side of the chart)

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

> Males generally dont marry up? My wife has a PhD, and is a Senior Data Scientist (why not Chief, who knows), and belongs to a noble Swedish/Finnish family. I am P.O.C. trash, from a (mostly) poor town in S Tacoma, WA. I hit the jackpot. > Unfortunately, their standards have really gone up since receiving said education. I'm not saying this to bash, it's simply my observation. I suspect that part of it has to do wit…

is she hot? men dont value women as much for professional achievements...

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

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I have a better explanation. She was talking about the kinds of stuff she was into, and didn't sense that you were into the same things. Then when you said you did do stuff like that, she was interested because you had more in common. She didn't have an ego, you did. If you didn't, you guys could have talked all about the particulars of the stories she was telling, interspersing with similar tales from your adventure…

Honestly, you weren't there, you have no idea what kind of tone / non-verbal cues she was putting out there. It's entirely possible you're right, but all you know about the situation is what he's written here. Without any other information, I'm inclined to believe what he's saying.

You're right, I wasn't there.

But it's not hard to have an engaging conversation with someone, even someone you are not interested in as a romantic partner. Especially when you have things in common to talk about.

He pointedly stated that he didn't want to do this, citing a problem he had with her attitude. To me, it doesn't matter what tone she used, what non-verbal cues she put out there. You're sitting there with someone doing nothing else but talking for an hour or so. If you can't make the most of it, and you blame the other person for that, then it's you that has the ego problem.

A conversation, particularly in a date context, is a delicate dance of perceptions, temptation, discovery, and yes, ego. It's fun whether or not you plan on doing anything else with them or even whether you like them.

Re: Chart Shows Who Marries CEOs, Doctors, Chefs and Janitors

#190

Business Insider has run several articles of the urban college female "problem". With 30% more females obtaining college degrees currently than males plus that males generally dont marry up, there is a surplus of 20-something college females in all metropolitan areas except San Francisco and Washington DC. Good news for guys then. One silly article tried explain the success of hookup apps is that more desperate femal…

Males generally dont marry up? Couple things come to mind. Throughout my time, I've seen that women have their fair share of not wanting to marry down either. You want to say generalizations generalizations. Sure, but I think the age old stereotypes do have a hint of truth to them and the Bloomberg page here also states, "High-earning women (doctors, lawyers) tend to pair up with their economic equals, while middle-…

Of course you'll find some males that "marry up", but the data proves what many of us have known forever - as a man, you should strive to be elite in something, preferably something useful and sexually attractive. Otherwise you're just another brick in the wall.

Where this is all going to blow up in society is the fact that women are now better-educated, and will soon make more money than their male counterparts, who are slowly getting more discriminated against (see Yahoo lawsuit) and less engaged in the proverbial rat race.

A case in point is looking at highly successful black females. They have a rough time in the dating scene, and this is extremely well-documented. Over the course of the next generation, I see this spreading to other females as well.

What effectively is going to happen is that you'll see more men dropping out of the marriage pool, the pareto principle in dating will become stronger than ever, and reliance upon the nanny state to help single mothers raise their children will likely go up too.

Hate it all you want, but these are three extremely well-established trends and I don't see them getting any better. Tinder is the canary in the coalmine. This is where we're heading.

A country needs strong, highly-engaged men who act as leaders. America is losing that more each and every day, and it saddens me.

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