Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive • Hacker News Board

Re: Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 31, 2016, 1:52 PM UTC

oxplot wrote: post #180

rgbrenner wrote: post #153

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What Simon says is actually marketing 101.. they teach this in undergrad intro marketing (without all the bs about 'greatness', etc). The problem with it when it comes to startups/small businesses, is that it's expensive. If you want to go that route, you need to get out the entire message - A + B + C. Whereas, the sales-based approach he's criticizing, you only need to get out C and part of B. So if you want to go t…

Are you sure about it being marketing 101 and not 901? I can clearly see 100% of ads I've seen over the past month from established or younger companies doing exactly what Simon is criticizing.

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Re: Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive

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Post by cpncrunch » Sun, Jan 31, 2016, 8:31 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #172

cpncrunch wrote: post #170

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So what issues are there on the restaurant side?

Its not issues its just what people are used to?

But the article says it is "shitty" and that "most hate it". I think it might be due to:

[1] There are issues in all software (bugs, lacking your pet feature, etc), and people like to complain.

[2] The article's author has developed a product in the same space (although it seems to be more of a restaurant website template, rather than a reservation system), so there might be some jealousy there.

Re: Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive

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Post by SeeDave » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 6:40 AM UTC

WA wrote: post #13

ChuckMcM wrote: post #8

This is a really, really, important point. How many times have you gotten an app or a tool, used it a few times, and then not ever used it again? If you are an early adopter type you probably have many times. Whether it is todo lists or pizza delivery, if you don't do it enough to ingrain the habit it doesn't stick. And once your head is filled with the cognitive load of day to day stuff you revert to your habits (wh…

For me, this is Twitter. I'm mostly a reader. Writing tweets was incredibly unsatisfying so far and I never got into any kind of habit with it. Sometimes, I have the urge to simply get some random thoughts out of my brain. Sounds like a perfect thing for Twitter, except with Twitter, I have the expectation that my stuff somehow gets noticed. So instead, I use JOURNAL.TXT for that. I write the thought down, it's out o…

Twitter is an interesting product. Many "users" of Twitter consume tweets second-hand via the news, rather than their website or app.

Hope your JOURNAL.TXT serves you well. I actually have a private sub-reddit that I use for similar purposes :)

Re: Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive

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Post by ikurei » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 4:01 PM UTC

tiatia wrote: post #175

melvinmt wrote: post #125

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> So either the file already exists and I thus add to it or a new file is created instantly. If you want the same thing but want to do it in an app instead of manually in the terminal you should check out Notational Velocity ( http://notational.net ).

Looks interesting. But only MacOS? No Linux? Encrypted database? I once tried a password keeper. I think it was called xpassword or something like that. After having a corrupted database twice within days, I pass. I you want privacy your HDD should be encrypted anyway.

nvpy is a functional but admitedly very ugly linux clone. Both can use Simplenote, which works similarly if you're fine with a webapp.

For the windows crowd there is the also ugly-but-functional ResophNotes.

Re: Why Shitty Products Survive and Thrive

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Post by someguydave » Mon, Feb 01, 2016, 8:47 PM UTC

emodendroket wrote: post #133

someguydave wrote: post #50

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> Office is great because users in most business settings can quickly pick up any of its applications My experience is that 'users in business settings' absolutely refuse to consider any alternatives, mainly because of two 'fear factors': 1.) "Everyone else in my industry uses Microsoft Office products so I must as well" 2.) (Usually unstated explicitly) "Learning an alternative is going to cost me time and money and…

LibreOffice doesn't support stuff Office does; Latex and InDesign are intended for different purposes.

>Latex and InDesign are intended for different purposes

Page layout is what LaTeX and InDesign are intended to do, and that's what Microsoft Word does too. Do you think Word users are only using it for a text editor?