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Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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An actor?

The Actor

Yes, actor. On a site about programming ( or derogatory slang: hacking). On first page, first item. It's not even science, let alone computer science. A CGI article would be more on topic.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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Besides the roles mentioned here, I will remember Alan Rickman for something else: as Master of Ceremonies, introducing the various instruments at the end of the first part of Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells II" album [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells_II#Master_of_Cer...

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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> You have that backwards. Parent didn't put it in time terms. Just noted that everyone who ever lived, has also died ("A && B", as opposed to "A then B"). > Besides that, all people still currently living have not died. Yes, though one could say that those people are still "living", not yet in a state having "lived" (past tense), as parent put it.

I've lived. I'm currently living, but I used to, too.

You haven't "lived" (period) until you're dead, and it's settled.

You might have e.g. "lived in London" (if you don't know, so it's a settled thing and a specific period of your life). Or "I've lived in poverty", etc.

But "I've lived", period, without such a qualifier is not that common or useful when one is still alive.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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post #168

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It's not about edge. My children are free to make up their own minds about what they do with their lives when they reach an age where they can reason for themselves. Until then, I do my best to keep any ideological or religious influence from trying to exert itself upon them.

> My children are free to make up their own minds about what they do with their lives when they reach an age where they can reason for themselves. That assumes that reason, not emotion, is the primary motivator, no? > Until then, I do my best to keep any ideological or religious influence from trying to exert itself upon them. 'Be nice to others' is ideology (albeit very weak). I imagine that you don't keep that from…

>'Be nice to others' is ideology

I don't think 'Be nice to others' is ideology. It may be part of an ideology, but I don't think that it an ideology in itself.

'Be nice to others' is also not a totalizing idea in the same way that Christianity is - not everything in the world happens because somebody was or was not nice to others. Christianity takes as its base that everything is/was the will of their god.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've lived. I'm currently living, but I used to, too.

You haven't "lived" (period) until you're dead, and it's settled. You might have e.g. "lived in London" (if you don't know, so it's a settled thing and a specific period of your life). Or "I've lived in poverty", etc. But "I've lived", period, without such a qualifier is not that common or useful when one is still alive.

If you truly want to argue that the verb tense chosen means "Everyone who ever lived [and then died] has died," then the statement becomes a tautology: "Everyone who has died has died."

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

#186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't "lived" (period) until you're dead, and it's settled. You might have e.g. "lived in London" (if you don't know, so it's a settled thing and a specific period of your life). Or "I've lived in poverty", etc. But "I've lived", period, without such a qualifier is not that common or useful when one is still alive.

If you truly want to argue that the verb tense chosen means "Everyone who ever lived [and then died] has died," then the statement becomes a tautology: "Everyone who has died has died."

All true equivalency statements are tautologies -- since both sides "resolve" to the same thing. That doesn't mean they are useless.

In this case, though, it's not "Everyone who has died has died", but "To have lived means you're dead".

The same way that "to be a corpse means that you've died". That's not a tautology (it's not "to be a corpse means you're a corpse"), just informs us of a prerequisite for the other thing to happen.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you truly want to argue that the verb tense chosen means "Everyone who ever lived [and then died] has died," then the statement becomes a tautology: "Everyone who has died has died."

All true equivalency statements are tautologies -- since both sides "resolve" to the same thing. That doesn't mean they are useless. In this case, though, it's not "Everyone who has died has died", but "To have lived means you're dead". The same way that "to be a corpse means that you've died". That's not a tautology (it's not "to be a corpse means you're a corpse"), just informs us of a prerequisite for the other th…

I think that you lack consensus on the meaning that can be drawn from use of the past tense.

Either way, the statement as given does not support the unstated implication that everyone now living will eventually die.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

#188

Besides the roles mentioned here, I will remember Alan Rickman for something else: as Master of Ceremonies, introducing the various instruments at the end of the first part of Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells II" album [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tubular_Bells_II#Master_of_Cer...

Thank you for that.

Re: Alan Rickman, Harry Potter and Die Hard Actor, Dies Aged 69

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So edgy.

It's not about edge. My children are free to make up their own minds about what they do with their lives when they reach an age where they can reason for themselves. Until then, I do my best to keep any ideological or religious influence from trying to exert itself upon them.

Narnia is only an "ideological or religious influence" if you're already very familiar with Christian symbolism. 99% of children will never get the references.
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