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Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by drb311 »

sjclemmy wrote: post #160
braythwayt wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t even know why I would want to be on a label in a few years, > because I don’t think it’s going to work by labels and by distribution > systems in the same way. > > --David Bowie, 2002 Something to think about in music that also happens in startups and software: These are social activities. People don’t judge music solely by some kind of independent metric of appeal. They also judge whether the music is popu…

I think Bowie was the antithesis of this. If you'll forgive the hyperbole, he is the archetypal outsider, the patron saint of the dispossessed. So for all those who don't feel that they belong, Bowie's activities provided a message - 'It's OK to be an outsider', and, curiously, through that message provided a sense of belonging - I'm going to get all metaphysical and say that that is alchemical / transformative in a…

"for all those who don't feel that they belong" < and the curious irony of Bowie's popularity: that's everyone.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by nkrisc »

rayiner wrote: post #178
synthmeat wrote: post #21

I don’t even know why I would want to be on a label in a few years, because I don’t think it’s going to work by labels and by distribution systems in the same way. The absolute transformation of everything that we ever thought about music will take place within 10 years, and nothing is going to be able to stop it. I see absolutely no point in pretending that it’s not going to happen. I’m fully confident that copyrigh…

It's so funny how people construct narratives. I'm listening to Bloomberg Business on the radio and they're talking about how David Bowie was a pioneer in monetizing future copyright cashflows to finance music production.

Was a pioneer in that when? The two angles aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Theoretically he could be good at milking copyright while it lasted even if he didn't believe it would be around forever.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by goodJobWalrus »

nkrisc wrote: post #183
rayiner wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so funny how people construct narratives. I'm listening to Bloomberg Business on the radio and they're talking about how David Bowie was a pioneer in monetizing future copyright cashflows to finance music production.

Was a pioneer in that when? The two angles aren't necessarily mutually exclusive. Theoretically he could be good at milking copyright while it lasted even if he didn't believe it would be around forever.

1997.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celebrity_bond#Bowie_Bonds

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by petercooper »

paganel wrote: post #105
eropple wrote: post #54

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The "50s to the 90s"--which is so laughably general, that's four generations of music, if not more--had The Beatles and David Bowie and it also had The Monkees and Men Without Hats. We have the artists who it's funny to make fun of, like Bieber, and we have Jack White, we have Kanye West, we have Radiohead--and we had David Bowie, he's a modern artist today , have you listened to Blackstar, which openly tips its cap…

> we have Kanye West For what it's worth Kanye West is still regarded like a sort of a joke in most of Europe, at least for people like me, who are over 30. > and we have Jack White At first I said to myself "who's that?", then I saw that he used to sing for the White Stripes. It's a so-and-so band, at least one of their songs got pretty popular among the football ultras, as did the Pet Shop Boys' "Go West!" back in…

For what it's worth Kanye West is still regarded like a sort of a joke in most of Europe, at least for people like me, who are over 30.

I'm not sure old people were known for being massive Bowie or Stones fans in the 60s either.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by Intermernet »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #123
wyclif wrote: post #65

If you listen to Bowie's new album "Blackstar" now, it has to rank as one of the greatest "going out with class" artistic moments in pop music. The lead single is called "Lazarus" and the first line of the song is "Look up here, I'm in heaven."

The video for Lazarus came out a few days ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-JqH1M4Ya8 That's one hell of an exit. The video and song for Blackstar are even more astonishing. For various reasons I was never a big Bowie fan, but Blackstar was one of the few tracks from anyone ever that made me think "WTF did I just hear/watch?!" - and I mean that in a good way. Some people make music. Bowie invented mythologies, t…

Wow.

I'm a huge Bowie fan and I just watched the video clip for Blackstar for the first time.

Genres redefined again with masterful production by all involved. I'll be having stranger than usual dreams tonight.

> That's one hell of an exit.

Yes, yes it is. I'll miss him.

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by rayiner »

brandnewlow wrote: post #87
cageface wrote: post #56

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I've been traveling all over the world and all I hear everywhere I go is crap American top 40 pop music. Like I said there's a ton of interesting stuff going on outside their purview but they control the conversation right now.

That's unfortunately what most people want to hear.

What's "unfortunate" about it?

Re: David Bowie Has Died

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Post by lmm »

rayiner wrote: post #178
synthmeat wrote: post #21

I don’t even know why I would want to be on a label in a few years, because I don’t think it’s going to work by labels and by distribution systems in the same way. The absolute transformation of everything that we ever thought about music will take place within 10 years, and nothing is going to be able to stop it. I see absolutely no point in pretending that it’s not going to happen. I’m fully confident that copyrigh…

It's so funny how people construct narratives. I'm listening to Bloomberg Business on the radio and they're talking about how David Bowie was a pioneer in monetizing future copyright cashflows to finance music production.

If you believed that copyright was going to go away in ten years, surely selling off future copyright cashflows is exactly what you would want to do.
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