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The internet has made defensive writers of us all

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Re: The internet has made defensive writers of us all

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post #79

So, about a week ago, I wrote a piece that I feel has a solid point and I posted it on Hacker News. It hit 39 karma and had 54 comments. Not impressive for Hacker News overall, but, hey, decent for my own personal blog's track record. The top voted comment on it is incredibly dismissive, completely dismissing my 6-ish years of college, more than 5 years working in insurance, etc. over one detail that wasn't thoroughl…

>You can't just turn the other cheek on everything. On an unrelated note, here's a interesting note on "turning the other cheek" http://dharmagates.org/other_cheek.html

Thank you for that. I downloaded the other thing. I haven't had time to look at it yet. Thank you for both.

Re: The internet has made defensive writers of us all

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I think that HN is one of the rare forums where this article doesn't apply. Usually the top comment in a particular thread contains the least hedges and most enthusiastically espouses a particular opinion. The comment is not usually overly bombastic (though it sometimes is). The comment almost always adopts the majority opinion on HN. Posting a comment not aligned with the majority opinion carries a risk of at most -…

It's not just the downvotes. They don't help, but it's also the responses. There is a major psychological effect from getting attacked for stating an opinion you might hold to heart. As an avid reddit/hn commenter, I feel it often. I don't really care if someone disagrees with me on something minor, but if it's something I truly believe is important and I see people disagreeing with it left and right and downvoting a…

You raise some excellent points. I have a few minority opinions and I have to essentially avoid some threads because I see how some brave souls who shared an unpopular opinion get vilified. It does hurt to be called names even on the internet. Thanks for replying!

Re: The internet has made defensive writers of us all

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post #162

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I think that HN is one of the rare forums where this article doesn't apply. Usually the top comment in a particular thread contains the least hedges and most enthusiastically espouses a particular opinion. The comment is not usually overly bombastic (though it sometimes is). The comment almost always adopts the majority opinion on HN. Posting a comment not aligned with the majority opinion carries a risk of at most -…

> Posting a comment not aligned with the majority opinion carries a risk of at most -4 points. I assert that downvotes more often correlate with disagreement than failure to abide by the standards of discourse. Since the penalty is limited, that's okay. A comment can have far worse consequences than the loss of a few karma points. If you say the wrong thing, your reputation and (potentially) your livelihood are at ri…

> real world consequences

Yes, I agree. I don't use my real name though I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to doxx me.

By the way, those 11 examples were great comments! Thanks for sharing.

Re: The internet has made defensive writers of us all

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You can look at this positively and that if someone gets offended then at least people are reading your work. It is very disheartening when you take the time to write something thoughtful and you get no response at all.

This has been turned into art by professional media outlets. That's the whole point of almost every single article they publish - the more people they can outrage or offend, the more people read and thus the more ad money flows in. > It is very disheartening when you take the time to write something thoughtful and you get no response at all. Scott Alexander explored this topic in [0]. He also laments the fact that th…

Thank you for sharing this. Fascinating read. Do you have any similar material?

Re: The internet has made defensive writers of us all

#186
post #68
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Not me. (please no downvote)

I assume this is a joke that people aren't getting?

Well, low effort one liners are frowned upon for good reasons so I don't mind the downvotes but I couldn't resist. I just wish the same treatment was also applied to non-joke useless comments. "I too have a baby and I love him", ok great.
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