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The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by ProAm »

mikeg8 wrote: post #141
ProAm wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is just a semantics argument.

The semantics are relevant though as it highlights the sentiment I'm trying trying to shed light on in my original comment.

I dont believe that's accurate though, saying people in their 20's know nothing, or people in their 20's still have a lot to learn is just a way of restating the same fact. But that statement doesn't mean that people in their 30's are enlightened or smarter, only that they now understand how much they don't know.

> This whole: "Twenty year olds don't know shit but 30 year olds are so enlightened" sentiment

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by webjprgm »

lintiness wrote: post #51
untog wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure. But that belief is a genuine worry when you are talking about creating something that'll move a hulk of metal down a road at 70mph.

if we don't have laws currently, we sure as hell need them. i can't imagine letting everybody try their own self-driving software.

This was my first thought when I read the article. There ought to be some test track qualification before allowing a new system to be tested on the public road.

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Post by ccarter84 »

dominotw wrote: post #66
jaybosamiya wrote: post #44

> The last people with jobs will be AI programmers Geohotz makes a decent point. The way the industrial revolution reduced manual labour, and made thinkers and tinkerers much more valuable, the advent of AI (true AI, mind you, not the tiny stuff that we currently assume) might actually make us obsolete. It is a peaceful and yet terrifying thought.

Can you point to one such job where someone lost his/her job to "AI"?

Financial reporting is likely on front lines http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2015/05/20/406484294/an-np...

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by roymurdock »

sah2ed wrote: post #50
roymurdock wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the article reads as a stylized joke, written to make Hotz seem like a Tony Stark sort of figure. I'm sure he has a good handle on the tech running the car, he's at least looked at licensing it to test on the freeway (learning from the backlash on the Jeep Hack), and he had tested the car extensively before inviting a reporter with children to test it at 70mph on the freeway. If you include these details and…

> Bloomberg goes for sexy. I think it is more about the reporter's writing style. The reporter -- Ashlee Vance -- is also the author of a recent book on Elon Musk.

Good call, seems as though this author has built his career around constructing SV cults of personality. This piece is just frothing the waters a bit for his next book on Hotz.

I stand by my assertion that Bloomberg goes for sexy. You can see it in their design, marketing, choice of topics, and choice of contributors. That's not to say they don't put out great and entertaining articles. Just that it always pays to think about who is backing, writing, and profiting from the publicity of the article.

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Post by snowwrestler »

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #170
jaybosamiya wrote: post #44

> The last people with jobs will be AI programmers Geohotz makes a decent point. The way the industrial revolution reduced manual labour, and made thinkers and tinkerers much more valuable, the advent of AI (true AI, mind you, not the tiny stuff that we currently assume) might actually make us obsolete. It is a peaceful and yet terrifying thought.

>The way the industrial revolution reduced manual labour, and made thinkers and tinkerers much more valuable Didn't the opposite happen? Suddenly artisans were out of business as nobody wanted beautiful hand-made luggage, or whatever, that would last decades, but instead we'd get some engineers and maybe consults an old-school luggage guy, get some specs, and toss that data into cheap mass production and be done with…

Technology innovation shifts the economies of art. For example, representational painters lost a lot of business to photographers. On the other hand, art photography became an industry.

There weren't a lot of people employed making movies or TV shows before the industrial revolution; now those industries provide lucrative employment to millions. Maker culture shifted with the technology.

That said, I agree with you that AI is being pretty dramatically oversold (again).

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by sp332 »

deftnerd wrote: post #130

@imgeohot - Before launch, you should look into a communications protocol between the vehicles. It appears to me that the new LiFi standard might be perfect. You might be able to use the laser range finders themselves to communicate between vehicles. What to communicate? I'm not sure, to be honest. Road conditions or notifications of the position of obstacles is one obvious thing. Advertising the current version of t…

The cars could signal a turn ahead of time, or indicate how hard they're about to brake. With a large enough network, they could even predict traffic patterns and choose a different route.

Re: The first person to hack the iPhone is building a self-driving car

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Post by dangerpowpow »

jamesjyu wrote: post #171
paragpatelone wrote: post #77

"His self-funded experiment could end with Hotz humbly going back to knock on Google’s door for a job." The biggest thing here IMO is this is self-funded. Any startup trying to do what he is doing in this environment would have raised $50 Million, hired 100's of engineers from top notch schools, become accepted in YC, and have Marc Andreessen, Paul Graham, Sam Altman and all singing their praises. Kudos to him for be…

And yes, that happened http://www.getcruise.com/

what's with making text so thin you can't even read?
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