New Star Trek Series Premieres January 2017

Post by serge2k » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 1:14 AM UTC

dogma1138 wrote: post #134

beloch wrote: post #111

Trek at it's best: 1. Isn't afraid of being slow, talky, and philosophical (Sorry J.J.). TNG had many excellent episodes specifically because it was willing to risk being "boring", while DS9 evolved Trek into the homogeneous "action" formula that has dominated Voyager, most of Enterprise, and the recent movies. 2. Is a force for idealism. The captains of Star Trek are paragons of humanity, and are supposed to find th…

DS9 had to deal with the "grey" areas of civilization and military organizations in the latter seasons and they did it very well, as well as what happens to society when it has been griped by fear (e.g. shapeshifter agents on earth). Enterprise started kinda ok (not great) but then 9/11 happened (which happened technically like a week or 2 before the 1st season aired, but it was too fresh to touch) which meant that i…

Post by serge2k » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 1:25 AM UTC

ant6n wrote: post #61

danso wrote: post #43

I was a big Trekkie when I was younger...but I'm surprised at how poorly the show has held up when rewatching on Netflix. I think what spoiled me was the revamped Battlestar Galactica. It's not the dated special effects that bother me, it's the way the utopia of Star Trek's future and technology began to provide way too many plot crutches. By the end of TNG, it seemed like every crisis resolution involved reversing t…

I feel with Netflix making watching episodes in order and re-watching shows much easier, DS9 is holding up pretty well. If you ignore some of the techno-bs and make a leap of faith on the religion stuff, the dialogue (while theatrical) is tight, the acting (besides the doctor) is pretty good, there's some suspense between the characters. The story evolves. Rewatching I especially like Quark, Garak, Odo - the characte…

Post by serge2k » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 1:42 AM UTC

savanaly wrote: post #102

codezero wrote: post #90

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What did you dislike about the reboot films? I really liked them, I thought they were cast well, and were over-all pretty good. edit: others in the comments have noted that the reboots are basically just action sequences with none of the underlying social themes that made Star Trek significant in the first place.

They were fine action films, but they totally lacked the heart and soul of the tv series, particularly the tv series' focus on exploration and diplomacy and resolving conflicts without violence. Granted, this has often been the case with Star Trek films (First Contact was sort of an action movie for example).

Post by serge2k » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 1:46 AM UTC

aidenn0 wrote: post #62

ramblerman wrote: post #31

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Well that's pretty much what the last movie was. That being said I thought it was quite good when you didn't think of it as 'star trek'

Yeah the two new movies were essentially action movies that captured the feel of the TOS characters.

Post by serge2k » Tue, Nov 03, 2015, 1:54 AM UTC

pakled_engineer wrote: post #58

lghh wrote: post #10

I have always been interested in watching Star Trek, having watched some of Deep Space Nine with my dad and thinking it was okay when I was really young in addition to enjoying the new movies. I figure now is a good time seeing as this is coming out in a little over a year. Any suggestions as to what order I should watch it in or if I should avoid any of the series?

DS9 doesn't get good until Sisko has the goatee, much like how beardless Riker episodes were terribad in TNG.