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Re: Soylent 2.0

#171
I've never really understood the hype for Soylent. It does seem like a great idea for your earthquake kit, camping, etc, but as daily food? If I am rushed for time, I'll just grab an Odwalla smoothie or similar. Can someone educate me about what I am not getting from a decent smoothie that Soylent provides? (I am probably not the target demographic as I enjoy eating, and variety).

Re: Soylent 2.0

#172
post #23

I tried Soylent 1.5 for about a month (not as my sole food source, but for maybe one meal a day), but I was unable to adjust to it well, my stomach was just constantly upset and I didn't feel great after eating it. I then tried Nutren 1.5 [1] thinking it might be different, but same effect for me, so I guess it is just me. I'm going to try 2.0 again, maybe I'll do it in smaller doses at first and see if I can adjust…

Have you looked into or tried MealSquares? I'm intrigued by it since it's a solid food product, but still has the same ambition like Soylent to be your go-to source of nutrition.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#173
post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sentence gave me pause: "The protein source is soy, which contains an ideal ratio of amino acids for excellent nutrition ..." You can argue the merits of one protein source over another, but I think to declare any non-animal protein source as "ideal" in any way would require some evidence to be presented. Unfortunately, it shows that they are glossing over the hard decisions that have to be made in creating a pr…

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This is incorrect. Compare the definition of a complete protein [1] and the amino acid composition of, for example, beef [2].

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_protein

[2]: http://www.hammernutrition.com/knowledge/protein-debate-whic... (see heading "COMPARISON OF AMINO ACID PROFILES IN COMMON PROTEINS")

Re: Soylent 2.0

#174

For me Soylent would have to be incredibly inexpensive to replace a meal or two a day. I like the idea of a cheap way to avoid going out when I don't feel like cooking, but I'm thinking ~$30 a month to replace a meal a day, not $102

Unless I'm looking at the 2.0 pricing chart incorrectly - wouldn't 1 meal a day be $87? $58 if you don't want to bother with it on the weekends..

Re: Soylent 2.0

#175
post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

    > My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have
    > studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with
    > baby formula
I was under the impression that there are many women who - for various reasons - can't breast feed. Are there any credible studies showing their infants have worse health outcomes?

Re: Soylent 2.0

#176
Anyone know what the shelf life is? Does it need to be refrigerated? In the Ars Technica interview they say that thepowder has much longer shelf life, but that's as far as it goes.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#177
post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What worries me is that soylent is 20% based on soy. Some studies indicate that eating a heavily soy based diet leads to increased estrogen levels Here's what they have to say about this [1]: >There are some public concerns about high consumption of soy, but Rhinehart is quick to dismiss them. "Because we’re not using whole soy, we’re just using the protein isolate…the isoflavone levels are much lower than what they…

It's like people think that they know some nutritional secret that soylent hasn't thought of. I take them on their word that they're taking this seriously and every time I read a comment about "Soylent is so clueless! How could they have thought of 'X'?!" then I google "soylent X" and find an extremely detained post explaining how they're taken 'X' in to account.

Dunning-kruger in effect. We are all at least layman when it comes to nutrition and health, so you get people who dont know what they dont know commenting on something to reassure their views. They dont do the research, because they already "know" the right answer.

We should be skeptical of any food stuff the purports to be nutritionally near perfect, but Soylent looks like its on track.

Re: Soylent 2.0

#178
post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

I'm curious - is there convincing evidence that baby formula is (absorbed-)nutritionally incomplete compared to breast milk? I know it produces worse health outcomes, but I haven't found decent claims on whether that's a failure of nutrition, or only a lack of side-channel influences like immune-system boosting. As a more general principle, I certainly agree that Soylent might miss the mark on dose and accessibility…

re: "worse health outcomes" for formula/bottle-fed babies - there was a recent study which refutes that common idea --

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/02/27/breast_feedi...

Re: Soylent 2.0

#179

Soylent 2.0 (liquid) is being sold alongside Soylent 1.5 (powder). The powder will continue to be sold. The liquid currently costs a little over 20% more per kcal. It's also important to note that the liquid is being sold as 400kcal is a serving (X bottles at 400kcal each) while the powder is being sold as 500kcal/16 oz prepared is a serving (X meals at 500kcal each with 4 meals to a pouch/28 meals to a box). At the…

I can see the convenience of liquid but it's seems highly inefficient distribution-wise. I wonder if there's another way to distribute it such as a bar?

Re: Soylent 2.0

#180
post #13

My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with baby formula. Some of that is due to immune system being passed on to the infant, but we haven't yet mastered the nutritional content of real food to the point where we can confidently say it's safe to eat Soylent or another similar product regularly. It takes me back to the whole issue with processed dog fo…

> My first thought whenever I see soylent is that we have > studies proving that we can't replace breast milk with > baby formula I was under the impression that there are many women who - for various reasons - can't breast feed. Are there any credible studies showing their infants have worse health outcomes?

It's still a commonly held belief but a recent study concluded there may be no difference at all:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/02/27/breast_feedi...

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