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Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by ryan-c » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:39 PM UTC

DCoder wrote: post #147

doki_pen wrote: post #141

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I was under the impression that they were planting files on the user's computer to incriminate them. I don't really understand where this code is getting it's payload from though.

It seems like that code just builds random-ish data that conforms to the wanted file format and then gives it incriminating names. For example: [1] https://github.com/hackedteam/rcs-common/blob/38290d4eab2b2c... [2] https://github.com/hackedteam/rcs-common/blob/38290d4eab2b2c...

That could plausibly be a tool for generating test data for forensics tools. The hardcoded paths don't make a lot of sense for actually trying to plant evidence.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by pound » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:40 PM UTC

pound wrote: post #163

criley2 wrote: post #156

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" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

in that line I was talking about liberal values as a cause of closing mental health institutions. See parent I was replying to.

actually fuck that. I keep forgetting how people like to talk about ideas and theories about crazies (crazy enough to be shitting in the middle of main city streets in front of eateries) suggesting that they just need a little money thrown their way to fix it all. Those are degenerates and not someone who just doesn't work.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by DonQuixote1000 » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:42 PM UTC

chinathrow wrote: post #148

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #144

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The alternative to cold wars is hot wars. Do you really want another WWII (60 million dead)? The idea that peace will happen if we make shitty arms is historically untrue. The idea that peace happens when we make cutting-edge arms is historically true.

No for fucks sake, the alternative to hot/cold wars is peace. The idea that we have less dead when access to any kind of arms is heavily restricted, how about that?

He is is making the correct assumption that even if some people want peace others will be more than happy to kill you and rationalise that it was actually a good thing. So you are both right: the alternative is peace or war. I would definitely prepare for war though. To do otherwise is naive and gratuitously stupid.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by pound » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

pound wrote: post #167

pound wrote: post #163

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in that line I was talking about liberal values as a cause of closing mental health institutions. See parent I was replying to.

I'll paraphrase it for you: psychos on streets are caused not by closure of mental health institutions, but by decision not to put them there in the first place. Closing of empty hospital after that was just a question of time. to clarify it further: I'm not trying to talk about homelessness in general. That's very complex subject. State housing - haha, welcome to 6th street/any sro in tenderloin, tell me how great t…

DanBC: how does what work? It's not about availability of services, it about engagement in it. There are programs in US too.

Something people here looks like don't understand: there are resources for homeless. May not be enough but it's not nothing. There multiple programs to help. How about places where you should be sober to stay? AND HOW ABOUT STREET PEOPLE WHO'RE SAYING FK THAT, I"LL BE DOING WHAT I WANT? how about all the free rides to all the hospitals and emergencies? do you think they turned down? People here on HN are sitting in warm chairs and projecting themself on others. NOT EVERYONE IS THE SAME. And plenty of people on streets are genuinely fked up. but you may keep thinking about throwing little money toward them and how it suppose to fix it all.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by hacktivistic » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:47 PM UTC

sarciszewski wrote: post #131

tptacek wrote: post #123

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By "runs his mouth", you mean, "says things people like us disagree with"? This whole "demonize Soghoian" strategy simply isn't working. People who engage in it sound petulant, not persuasive. My guess is more than half of HN readers would sympathize with his positions.

I've previously had disagreements with Soghoian before, but he's generally reasonable. He's not exactly cartoon villain material.

Generally reasonable? You've gotta be kidding. The guy launches into Twitter rants daily, often blasting away with ad hominems.

On balance, I think he probably does more good than harm for our community. But it's a very close call.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by stefantalpalaru » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:48 PM UTC

veddox wrote: post #56

Zigurd wrote: post #14

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South Korea is fairly recently free-ish. Up until 1987 South Korea had a heavily US-influenced authoritarian government with a token legal opposition. The US still has a very strong influence in South Korea. There are also recent incidents that betray a lack of confidence in democracy: http://www.wsj.com/articles/south-korea-court-dissolves-left... It's a perfectly nice place to visit. People there apparently feel fr…

> But they are not as free as Americans. Oh, give over! As if the US of A were the ultimate land of freedom. With the NSA, Guantanamo, race-based police violence... [Disclaimer: I have nothing against the USA (well, almost nothing). But I can't stand people talking about it as if it was the only true democracy/free country/heaven on earth.]

Don't forget the free-speech zones that look suspiciously like cages: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by pound » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:50 PM UTC

criley2 wrote: post #156

pound wrote: post #151

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it's not just closure of mental-health institution. You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values. Here is a bit of context for often mentioned closure of mental hospitals/services: at first there was a decision NOT to force anyone with mental issues to be admitted into such establishments against their will unless they dangerous to themself/others. And only ofter that closures of half-empty at tha…

" You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values." LOL - no. Liberal values include state housing which is proven time and time again to end mass homelessness at a smaller cost than the law enforcement, judicial and social cost of managing homeless populations. Liberal values strongly support taking from the rich to support the poor, including the mentally ill and homeless. You do not see many liber…

liberal values as not submitting someone to mental health institution against their will. we are not kgb or nazies, ain't we?

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by stefantalpalaru » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 5:56 PM UTC

https://www.privacyinternational.org/?q=node/147 :

> It has come to Privacy International’s attention that Hacking Team appears to have received €1.5 million from two venture capital funds originating from the Region of Lombardy in 2007. One of the funds, Finlombarda Gestioni SGR S.p.A (FGSGR) has only a single shareholder - Finlombarda S.p.A, a public financial services agency whose only shareholder is the Region of Lombardy. Finlombarda S.p.A. designs, builds and manages financial services on behalf of the Region of Lombardy, placing the profits of Hacking Team hand-in-hand with the public finances of Lombardy. FGSGR also lists the Head of Venture Capital as being a Board Member of Hacking Team itself.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by OC367094 » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 6:06 PM UTC

pound wrote: post #151

discardorama wrote: post #129

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> should every employee of a Silicon Valley company be shamed for rising property values in the area that have left many homeless? Property values have nothing to do with homelessness. The roots of homelessness lie in the closure of mental-health facilities all across the US and California. These people need mental health counseling more than anything else.

it's not just closure of mental-health institution. You may also say the roots of homelessness lie in liberal values. Here is a bit of context for often mentioned closure of mental hospitals/services: at first there was a decision NOT to force anyone with mental issues to be admitted into such establishments against their will unless they dangerous to themself/others. And only ofter that closures of half-empty at tha…

I find it incredibly ironic that you're espousing these types of arguments in a thread dedicated to black-hat programs used by developing world States.

To anyone without sufficient knowledge, such tools would lend an air of almost magical ability to the reputation of organizations who already rely on fear, persecution, physical & emotional violence and so on.

The irony being that many of the tools of the trade can be used to break the will of those deemed non-acceptable. I'd suggest you look up "gas lighting".

Points if you understand what my user-name is referencing.

Re: Hacking Team hacked, attackers claim 400GB in dumped data

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Post by JabavuAdams » Mon, Jul 06, 2015, 6:06 PM UTC

astrodust wrote: post #152

a3n wrote: post #95

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> I wonder how these people can sleep at night. These people are not you. They don't care. We should be mindful that there is a large fraction of people who care only about their own well being, regardless of consequences.

A lot of people fail to understand what sociopaths are like. They do not, can not care in the way that most people do. The best they can do is pretend to care.

We should be very careful about labeling selfish people as sociopaths. It's easier to believe that there are incurable monsters among us, because this lets us be self-righteous in containing and punishing them.

IMHO simply realizing that there is a scale of selfishness that extends way beyond where you think the limits are is more predictive and actionable.