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Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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You can easily turn it off in Settings -> Security & Privacy -> Search tab -> Include online search results

Which build is that? I don't see it in build 10074. It existed in the pre-Cortana build from last fall, but as far as I can tell, it was completely removed when Cortana was added. Perhaps it was re-added? Or I'm looking in the wrong spot?

It was removed for a while and then returned in the most recent build as far as I'm aware.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Why all of their screenshots are on laptops? Doesn't anyone use real computers anymore?

While I get the consensus opinion of the other people who have replied to your comment, I think you and I feel another missed opportunity here. A notable audience for Microsoft is the PC enthusiast—people who use multiple 4K monitors connected to powerful workstations.

One of the disasters of Windows 8 was viewing full-screen Metro applications on a 39" 4K monitor. It would have been funny—heck, it was funny—but it was also tragic. It was a touchstone of how utterly out of touch Windows 8 was with desktop computing.

When Microsoft shows silhouettes of all of the Windows 10 platforms, one should be a 3-monitor monster desktop workstation, the kind of PC that some of us own and love. In not showing something truly high-end, they make us feel like high-productivity computing is no longer a focus of Microsoft.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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As a windows 7 user i have to wonder: Exactly why should i upgrade? Does Microsoft have some kind of comparison table between Windows 7 and Windows 10 i can use to make an informed decision?

Someone posted this on Reddit:

List of features (vs. 8.1):

- Package manager (OneGet).

- Virtual desktops.

- Improved conhost (cmd and powershell "window").

- Improved multi-monitor support.

- Start Menu is back (but the 'Power User' right click menu remains!).

- Settings app (improved Control Panel experience).

- 2F auth, better biometrics, face and iris support.

- Lower disk usage (reduced 2.6 GB on 64 bit).

- Edge browser. Cortana. Improved Windows Explorer icons & folder favourites.

- Notifications UI.

List of features (vs. 7):

- Faster boot (inc. hybrid boot).

- Improved Task Manager.

- Improved Copy/Move dialog boxes (pause, graphs, prioritisation, etc).

- Better touch screen support.

- More login options (pin, picture, etc).

- Improved multi-monitor support (taskbar options).

- Up button and ribbon in Windows Explorer.

- Native support for ISO, IMG, and VHD mounting.

- Better on-screen keyboard.

- Peek passwords.

- File History (UI mostly).

- Refresh, Reset, etc restore options.

- "Basic" biometrics.

- Improved encryption.

- Client Hyper-V (on Pro and above).

So for 8.1 users, the improvements to 10 are mostly graphical with a handful of very nice to have functionality improvements. For Windows 7 users, the improvements are substantial and across the board. 8 and 8.1 actually improved 7 a lot, people just ignore it because "omg the Start Screen."

So to the people saying "Windows 7 is until 2020, why upgrade!" I say: you're missing out on a lot of improvements that you could be taking advantage of, in particular improvements 8 and 8.1 brought that you ignored.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Will Win10 ship with an optional Win7 theme? The "AeroGlass" theme was beautiful and my hardware is fast enough - sure some low end mobile hardware can't handle it. Will Win10 RTM still requires a Microsoft Outlook/Live/Passport/Hotmail-Account? The non-obvious small almost hidden "offline" profile option during Windows install wizard is not okay. It should be an equal option. And for OneDrive and Cortana there shoul…

I feel the marginalization of traditional (local) accounts is a mistake. Microsoft is, in my opinion, squandering an opportunity to be the major industry player to disintermediate today's "cloud" and give control back to individuals, families, and friends. Because they think of managing local accounts from a 15-year old point of view clouded by overly-complicated Windows Domains, they are unwilling to conceive an int…

I agree. I'd love to see Microsoft continue to push for users to be in control of their own data. I try not to use any cloud sync services, but I use some Windows Store apps, so I end up having to use a Microsoft account for that reason.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Undoubtedly, but the issue is that they only have 2 months to take care of any bugs in their recent code. If the tech preview builds are anything to go by, the stuff that hasn't been released yet is going to need a lot of testing and fixing. I don't think it's insurmountable, but they definitely have their work cut out for them.

> Undoubtedly, but the issue is that they only have 2 months to take care of any bugs in their recent code Parent is suggesting that what you think is "recent code" isn't recent at all (if you mean the tech previews). The leaked internal builds are more recent, but only relatively so.Therefore you can't extrapolate the number of current bugs remaining from tech previews.

Right, I got that. The tech previews are "old" code, that is, they've gone through testing internally and have been deemed ready for release to the public for further testing. It's reasonable to assume that anything newer hasn't been tested to that point yet, so they still have a lot of work to do on the things we haven't seen yet.

It's also possible that this whole thing is a psyops campaign and Microsoft has been sending out purposely buggy releases while sitting on a build that works amazingly so that they can appear to have released an excellent product under a major time crunch. Unlikely, but fun to think about.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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As a windows 7 user i have to wonder: Exactly why should i upgrade? Does Microsoft have some kind of comparison table between Windows 7 and Windows 10 i can use to make an informed decision?

Windows 8+ is definitely faster than Windows 7 with regards to boot time and in many other ways. It's also got Metro. And of course you can actually use it on touch enabled hardware.

If you don't need any of that stuff, there's no reason to upgrade.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Looks like you and I hit a nerve here on HN. You are right though. Microsoft will be shipping Windows 10 with an incomplete version of their new Edge browser with the promise of adding critical features such as extensions in the future. Basically Windows 10 won't really be feature complete RTM for another 6 months. Even if Microsoft want to pretend it is ready now. Edit: To clarify the "hit a nerve" bit, when I wrote…

iPhone shipped feature-incomplete yet people were screaming from the rafters about how awesome it was. Earth Shattering. MAGICAL! Gotta love the double standards...

No, not really.

The original iPhone was feature complete, in that the features it shipped with were complete.

Whether it had all the features it could have done is another question. However that misses the point - the goal was to set the bar for a fully touch-screen interface, not compete on feature lists.

And it was earth shattering. That one product launch was the catalyst for a huge amount of change – our entire computing landscape has been shaken up, previous incumbents are dead or dying, new industries have been created and billions of dollars of value has been created and destroyed.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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It is easily disabled and is only a feature in Ubuntu's Unity desktop. If you use a different version of Ubuntu (GNOME, Mate, KDE, whatever else they offer now) it won't be an issue.

Don't make excuses for something that's very obviously antithetical to very premise of Linux and free, open-source software.

I'm not making any excuses. You have the option to choose another desktop or distro entirely if you don't like it. That is a fact, not an excuse.

Your point would carry more weight if it were impossible to disable it and if I had suggested the parent post just use it anyway.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Interesting question. Obviously it's a render, but why did they choose those proportions? Tease of new MS hardware?

Kind of looks like XPS 13 with the "bottom" (that has the DELL logo) cut off http://techranker.net/dell-xps-13-review-pros-and-cons-best-...

And with a webcam added at the top in the thin bezel. It does certainly look inspired by the XPS.

Re: Hello World: Windows 10 Available on July 29

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Do we know what "free for the first year" means yet? What about the second year? I've been running Ubuntu for personal use for about a year now. I miss steam so I might jump onto Windows 10, but not if I only find out the price after I jump in

What's wrong with Steam on Ubuntu?

>> What's wrong with Steam on Ubuntu?

That you can't run the big titles that only run on Windows?

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