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Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by arca_vorago »

I subbed as soon as UE4 came out, and have been loving it so far. I have had extensive arguments with a fellow dev about Unity, but he has access to 5 while I don't want to pay the huge upfront cost just to have access to the same pipeline to help him, and I feel like the cost of Unity is the main barrier to me using it.

Epic is really getting ready to eat Unity's lunch I think. The graphical quality of Unity 5 is comparable, but Epic is making huge updates on short timeframes and they keep doing stuff like this.

For anyone interested, blueprints are great for prototyping, but once you have too much complexity in a BP it can easily cascade inefficiencies to the point it becomes very noticeable, so I would suggest using C++ with VS 2013 community edition, which now works with the plugin the Epic provides.

Also, there are some features that you can only access if you compile the engine yourself, so that is probably also a good idea for anyone serious about their project.

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by timv »

Finster wrote: post #168
cma wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To handle noncompliers, they can get off of the various App stores with a simple DMCA request, no complicated lawsuits required, unless the developers appeal the take down, which probably involves a lot of "under penalty of perjury" lying.

Why would breach-of-contract have anything to do with the DMCA?

I assume cma is suggesting that the contract would allow Epic to revoke the license of anyone that failed to pay their 5%.

Once Epic exercises that right, any further distribution of the product would be a violation of Epic's copyright and Epic could file a DCMA takedown.

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by [deleted] »

Finster wrote: post #168
cma wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To handle noncompliers, they can get off of the various App stores with a simple DMCA request, no complicated lawsuits required, unless the developers appeal the take down, which probably involves a lot of "under penalty of perjury" lying.

Why would breach-of-contract have anything to do with the DMCA?

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Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by dlu »

jameshart wrote: post #169
stonemetal wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When you ship a game or application, you pay a 5% royalty on gross revenue after the first $3,000 per product, per quarter. Not only does it reset per quarter, it is per product as well.

That seems pretty gameable (and who would be better at gaming systems than games devs?). "Oh, yeah, we made $2999 on Gem Clan Quest, then $2999 on Gem Clan Quest Super Deluxe Edition, and $2999 on the Gem Clan Quest Candy Kingdom DLC, which is more of a sequel really, so it's a totally different product..."

Yeah, but I think $3,000 is a small enough increment for them. You'd need to do this dozens of times for it to be a meaningful aggregate amount. And that situation should be fairly obvious and easy to police.

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by Elhana »

jameshart wrote: post #169
stonemetal wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When you ship a game or application, you pay a 5% royalty on gross revenue after the first $3,000 per product, per quarter. Not only does it reset per quarter, it is per product as well.

That seems pretty gameable (and who would be better at gaming systems than games devs?). "Oh, yeah, we made $2999 on Gem Clan Quest, then $2999 on Gem Clan Quest Super Deluxe Edition, and $2999 on the Gem Clan Quest Candy Kingdom DLC, which is more of a sequel really, so it's a totally different product..."

That does not scale really well, unless are really on the edge of this 3k. As soon as you start earning more, your users will be confused if you release 'new' product every month. Besides, I bet if you read full license, it will have proper legal rules there against this and other tricks you might come up with.

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by girvo »

Finster wrote: post #168
cma wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To handle noncompliers, they can get off of the various App stores with a simple DMCA request, no complicated lawsuits required, unless the developers appeal the take down, which probably involves a lot of "under penalty of perjury" lying.

Why would breach-of-contract have anything to do with the DMCA?

Because the developer doesn't own the copyright to the engine?

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

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Post by Gustomaximus »

jameshart wrote: post #169
stonemetal wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When you ship a game or application, you pay a 5% royalty on gross revenue after the first $3,000 per product, per quarter. Not only does it reset per quarter, it is per product as well.

That seems pretty gameable (and who would be better at gaming systems than games devs?). "Oh, yeah, we made $2999 on Gem Clan Quest, then $2999 on Gem Clan Quest Super Deluxe Edition, and $2999 on the Gem Clan Quest Candy Kingdom DLC, which is more of a sequel really, so it's a totally different product..."

My guess is their not interested in the small fry and are looking for companies that earn hundreds of millions.

If a company was gaming this pricing creating 100 products each earning $4,000 (vs. $400k) they are saving $15,000 and are likely to hurt their business via customer confusion.

Re: Unreal Engine 4 is now available to everyone for free

#179

Post by sago »

jrlocke wrote: post #18

A demo of the astounding capabilities for those who haven't seen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6PQ19BEE24

More the capabilities of the designer than the engine, since it is all static, but that scene is stunning.

I do wonder if Paris apartments have big glass double doors between the lounge and the master bedroom though. Could make visiting friends a little, erm, intimate.

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