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Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by nilliams »

honksillet wrote: post #165
ldng wrote: post #150

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Could someone make (or provide a link to) a summary of the melodrama for outsiders ? It being not too partisan for one side or the other would be a plus.

I was interested myself, so I did a little google-foo. So Ben Noorddhuis was a major contributor to NodeJS and a volunteer (that is, not a Joyent employee). It turns out Ben rejected a pull request that would have made pronoun in the document gender neutral. The documents were already grammatically correct, but whoever made the pull request had a political preference for using a non masculine pronoun. Ben rightly saw…

Wow I'd never actually read that Joyent post, it is truly ridiculous!

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by domenicd »

bshimmin wrote: post #104
_greim_ wrote: post #42

I suspect there will be a split in the npm ecosystem now, not so much along node/iojs lines but along es5/es6 lines. There's already been lots of discussion about whether module builders should publish es6 code, or should everything be transpiled down to es5 code in order to keep the ecosystem unified (the unspoken caveat being, around es5). I think es5 is a dinosaur as of today, so I say go ahead and publish es6 cod…

I don't think you can really call something "a dinosaur" when the standard that is supposed to supersede it hasn't even formally been published yet!

The fiction that formal publications of standards matter should not be propagated. Implementations are well under way.

(I say this as a member of the TC39 committee in charge of the ECMAScript standard.)

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by whacker »

jscheel wrote: post #170
benihana wrote: post #137

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groan Don't get me wrong, thanks for the information. But seriously. It's like when you come up with a whimsical naming scheme for your home network devices and you get trapped in that naming scheme and have to come up with more and more obscure Lithuanian folk demons that fit into your conventions and it becomes a parody of itself and you're not sure if you're serious or joking anymore.

I named my new external drive "Rama". Not sure how far I can take that, though.

about 10, avatars of Vishnu.

OTOH, Vishnu himself has a thousand names (Vishnu-Sahasra-nama)!

I'd say you are in fairly good shape.

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by jscheel »

whacker wrote: post #173
jscheel wrote: post #170

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I named my new external drive "Rama". Not sure how far I can take that, though.

about 10, avatars of Vishnu. OTOH, Vishnu himself has a thousand names (Vishnu-Sahasra-nama)! I'd say you are in fairly good shape.

Haha, except mine is Rama like the spaceship :)

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by munificent »

drderidder wrote: post #149

Node got forked because it got corped. When a corporation sinks their hooks into an active open source project, it's only a matter of time. Mysql, Maria, Hudson, Jenkins... same story. io.js is the way forward, and congrats to the core team.

> When a corporation sinks their hooks into an active open source project, it's only a matter of time.

An ironic statement given that one of the main motivations for io.js is to upgrade to the new awesome versions of V8 with all of its great new features.

V8, of course, has always been "corped": it was created and is maintained almost entirely by Google.

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by chews »

honksillet wrote: post #165
ldng wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could someone make (or provide a link to) a summary of the melodrama for outsiders ? It being not too partisan for one side or the other would be a plus.

I was interested myself, so I did a little google-foo. So Ben Noorddhuis was a major contributor to NodeJS and a volunteer (that is, not a Joyent employee). It turns out Ben rejected a pull request that would have made pronoun in the document gender neutral. The documents were already grammatically correct, but whoever made the pull request had a political preference for using a non masculine pronoun. Ben rightly saw…

Wow. I really cannot understand how you see Joyent's actions as immature and embarrassing.

The request is/was/remains a relevant one. Language is important, it is after all the one of the few tools to describe percieved reality.

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by birdsareweird »

chews wrote: post #176
honksillet wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was interested myself, so I did a little google-foo. So Ben Noorddhuis was a major contributor to NodeJS and a volunteer (that is, not a Joyent employee). It turns out Ben rejected a pull request that would have made pronoun in the document gender neutral. The documents were already grammatically correct, but whoever made the pull request had a political preference for using a non masculine pronoun. Ben rightly saw…

Wow. I really cannot understand how you see Joyent's actions as immature and embarrassing. The request is/was/remains a relevant one. Language is important, it is after all the one of the few tools to describe percieved reality.

Because everyone who doesn't live in one of the SJW/progressivist cult bastions realizes that:

a) Talk is cheap, action matters, and the PC police's main strategy is to complain until other people change, instead of enacting change themselves. Accommodating them is useless, they will simply find something new to complain about. Apologies are always insufficient, defiance is considered a declaration of war.

b) Language is indeed important, and redefining concepts like "privilege", "misogyny" and "harassment" to mean whatever the club of the perpetually offended thinks they mean is damaging to sane discourse.

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by _greim_ »

chews wrote: post #176
honksillet wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was interested myself, so I did a little google-foo. So Ben Noorddhuis was a major contributor to NodeJS and a volunteer (that is, not a Joyent employee). It turns out Ben rejected a pull request that would have made pronoun in the document gender neutral. The documents were already grammatically correct, but whoever made the pull request had a political preference for using a non masculine pronoun. Ben rightly saw…

Wow. I really cannot understand how you see Joyent's actions as immature and embarrassing. The request is/was/remains a relevant one. Language is important, it is after all the one of the few tools to describe percieved reality.

Ben Noordhuis's primary language isn't English, and he was following established PR protocol, so I think he should be given a little bit of leeway.

Re: Io.js 1.0.0

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Post by Gigablah »

CmonDev wrote: post #166
igoldny wrote: post #113

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no, V8 makes javascript run, iojs makes javascript run on server.

So it's useless without V8. I mean I can install Chrome or an Awesomium app onto server and it will also run JavaScript on server (via V8).

And why would you want to do that?
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