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Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by BostonEnginerd »

ibrahima wrote: post #111
serf wrote: post #99

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I love it, too. I hate that Lenovo no longer makes a ThinkPad with only that style pointer any longer. I always felt the trackpad was a big waste of space since I never use them.

Eh, as a T440s owner (granted, my first Thinkpad) I was a bit apprehensive about the lack of buttons but I actually exclusively use the Trackpoint now. The clickpad does click down like a button which is a little weird at first but you quickly get used to where the "buttons" are and then it just feels like normal. I use the middle click scroll a lot too. At least in Linux you can adjust the precise locations of the b…

I've tried the new big button T440s and really don't like the amount of force the big touchpad takes to click.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by BostonEnginerd »

sydney6 wrote: post #107

Imagine: A Thinkpad x/t/w with the old non-chiclet Keyboard without their "new" Layout, old-sytle Trackpad/Pointer with physical Buttons, a non-low-voltage Haswell with 2 RAM Slots, capable of containing at least 16 Gigs of Memory, a removable, non-integrated Battery, proper Intel-Chipsets and their LED-backlit Display in the old magesium-style Body with aluminium Hinges and the old mechanical display closing Mechani…

I would buy this laptop in a heartbeat.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by na85 »

quinndupont wrote: post #52

In no way am I trying to incite Mac vs. PC, but after years of Apple laptops I grew bored with their aluminum fascism and decided (last year) to buy a top-of-the-line Thinkpad. A couple of months later, taking a huge economic hit, I sold the Thinkpad and returned to Apple. I simply could not handle the trackpad (and I gave up on the weird Thinkpad nubbin back in the early 2000s). I quite literally felt like I had a d…

> quite literally felt like I had a degenerative neuromuscular disease when I used the trackpad

Was it jittery? I had this problem with an older thinkpad when plugged into AC, but the problem went away when unplugged, so I assume it was just a case of bad isolation from the 60Hz AC signal.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by wingerlang »

overgard wrote: post #129
RandallBrown wrote: post #72

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I love the lack of buttons. It makes it much much easier to click on things since I don't have to precisely hit a button. I don't think I've ever used a right click drag for anything, but it seems easy enough to do on my macbook pro. Just click with two fingers and drag.

There's no reason you couldn't do both. I really hate the trackpad click thing though for a specific reason: the pressure required changes based on where you are on the trackpad. It takes much more force to click at the top than at the bottom, so I end up using my thumb to click on the bottom anyway, at which point... I'd rather just have a proper button.

Have you tried "touch to click"? And also, "double-tap-and-hold-to-drag"?

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by Pxtl »

MereInterest wrote: post #160
Pxtl wrote: post #87

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I'm constantly frustrated by this. I mean, HP and Lenovo have become the cheap Chinese knock-off companies of themselves, and there's an unwritten rule that every Asus product must be an absolute dream except for one critical deal-breaker frustration per-product that makes you hate it.

Lenovo business laptops. The consumer laptops are shoddy and thin, but the business laptops tend to be rather durable.

I wish companies would follow the car company approach and fully separate their consumer-crap and quality corporate brands into to completely-different brand names. I tend to think that their consumer-end completely sabotages their high-end name. Everybody has a foul memory of a mid-range dell/hp/asus device and that feeds consumers into the "screw it, I'll just buy Apple" response. Make a brand that consumers can trust.

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Post by HeyImAlex »

MereInterest wrote: post #160
Pxtl wrote: post #87

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I'm constantly frustrated by this. I mean, HP and Lenovo have become the cheap Chinese knock-off companies of themselves, and there's an unwritten rule that every Asus product must be an absolute dream except for one critical deal-breaker frustration per-product that makes you hate it.

Lenovo business laptops. The consumer laptops are shoddy and thin, but the business laptops tend to be rather durable.

Can't stand the clicking trackpad. Loved my $300 consumer grade Lenovo with buttons but my new thinkpad is so awful I've pretty much stopped using it. It never gets better, I haven't gotten used to it, and it's been six months.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by ajcarpy2005 »

jarin wrote: post #149
bobbles wrote: post #135

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Brand new iPhones have this same sensation

This might sound kind of dumb, but just rub it on your face. I'm pretty sure the "smoothing out" is just getting a nice thin coating of oil on it, like seasoning a cast iron pan.

This is the kind of insight that sets HN comments apart. Simple but possibly Useful.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by exidy »

archagon wrote: post #112
overgard wrote: post #68

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I don't know that apple gets this right either. (I have a macbook). The actual tracking feels fantastic and precise, and it has a nice texture, but I /hate/ how they refuse to put real buttons below it. Things like "right mouse drag" which I use all the time become a nightmare, and the whole "no buttons" thing just seems like it's putting aesthetics over functionality.

Are you talking about Windows? Because I'm pretty sure OSX doesn't have any right mouse drag controls.

Xcode.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

rayiner wrote: post #155
ibrahima wrote: post #109

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Incidentally, as a lifelong PC user every time I have to use a Mac touchpad (which is quite often since a lot of my colleagues have them) I want to throw the light and shiny piece of junk out the window. I don't understand how you people use those things. As a recent Thinkpad convert I've actually switched exclusively to the Trackpoint too, but the touchpad is perfectly fine to me, I just prefer not moving my hands o…

There is this trade-off between making it fast to do big mouse movements and making fine mouse movements possible. Typical high-friction PC touchpads are awful for fine movements. Trackpoints are good for fine movements, but they don't have enough travel to also make it easy to throw the cursor to the other side of the screen quickly. In my experience with both, the high-sensitivity, low-friction glass touchpad on th…

High-friction pads do indeed make fine movements difficult--with a very gentle push, your fingertip doesn't move at all, until it overcomes static friction and jumps several pixels.

I found a trick to get around that a while back: When small movements are needed, don't slide your finger but roll it. No friction involved, that way.

Re: Why Asus trackpad driver sets the CPU speed at maximum during scroll

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Post by PhasmaFelis »

overgard wrote: post #129
RandallBrown wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love the lack of buttons. It makes it much much easier to click on things since I don't have to precisely hit a button. I don't think I've ever used a right click drag for anything, but it seems easy enough to do on my macbook pro. Just click with two fingers and drag.

There's no reason you couldn't do both. I really hate the trackpad click thing though for a specific reason: the pressure required changes based on where you are on the trackpad. It takes much more force to click at the top than at the bottom, so I end up using my thumb to click on the bottom anyway, at which point... I'd rather just have a proper button.

IIRC, there's a setting in OS X to make it act like a traditional one- or two-button touchpad, i.e. it only recognizes clicks if your finger is in the appropriate place.
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