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Dear Marc Andreessen

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Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#171
> Did I miss one of Asimov's Laws that says androids are always programmed to be more socially-minded than neoliberals?

If you missed Asimov's Zeroth Law [0], then yes, you did.

That being said, since, AFAIK, we don't know how to program robots with Asimov's Laws anyway, I'm not sure how relevant that is.

[0] "A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm." (with the expected modifications to the First, Second and Third Laws).

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#172
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So things we disagree with now can just be labelled as idiocy? And no matter how much you and other statists hate neoliberalism and how it's taken over the world, thing is the world has never been so rich, so peaceful and people have never lived so long and so healthy in the whole history of humanity. So, if neoliberalism is having a bad effect on the world, I wonder what it would do if it had a good effect. I would…

Neoliberalism (of the Milton Friedman kind) hasn't taken over the world. It gained traction in the mid 70's, peaked in the 00's and is now, thankfully, slipping back from its extreme heights. Also, pmarca's particular interpretation of neoliberalism is what I was referring to as idiotic, not the broader concept as a whole (which I think is also very flawed but can at least respect). Let's not confuse well regulated f…

Some people affirm themselves as society problem solvers that will disrupt the (harmful) status quo. But most of the times they don't solve the core problems, they only solve where there is a profit to be made. 'Philanthropic obsessions' are most of the time only (insanely cheap) marketing. This is capitalism, for the good and for the ill.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#173
We live in the techno-utopia today. Food and shelter are not problems anymore. If it were otherwise, we would all be farmer-lumberjacks. It used to be like this, but it's solved now. We have enough for everybody - it's just about spreading the goods a little bit more evenly.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

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post #63

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> My policy preference would be a law that creating a universal wage subsidy of $7.75 an hour, thus guarantees every worker a total wage of at least $15 an hour. I really like this idea. Lately I've been thinking about minimum wage laws (SF, $15/hr min wage, etc) and something about it rubs me the wrong way. It feels like minimum wage laws are a convenient way for governments to take all the credit for improving the…

You do realize that every time minimum wages are raised like this the cost(s) are simply passed on through to the consumers. The net effect is that the cost base rises with the wage base, so no one actually gets ahead - the nominal price point is just set to a higher figure.

Often they can't be passed on due to competition so the businesses employ less people instead.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

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It's the "few regulations as possible" part of neoliberalism that has, for me at least, been the unquestionable failure. The following could all have been avoided or had the scope of their damage drastically reduced had better regulation been in place: LTCM and the Asia crisis in the 90s, the flood of bad IPOs in the dotcom era, the subprime and CDO disaster that sparked 2008, the asset bubbles over the last three de…

I just don't understand how 2008 was obviously because of deregulation. Not only is that a contestable claim, but you're simplifying the entire crash to a convenient cause that clearly confirms your biases. Just take a walk over to Wikipedia[1], and you can clearly see that ascribing the crash in 2008 to only deregulation is complete and utter nonsense: The Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 established an…

Thanks, many people keep repeating the "2008 crisis was caused by deregulation" myth when in fact it was quite the opposite and when I try to tell them so they look at me like if I was a mad man. Can't believe how ignorant people are on the issue even some of my highest educated friends. Goes to show that people tend to believe anything without questioning as long as their beliefs match their worldview.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the "few regulations as possible" part of neoliberalism that has, for me at least, been the unquestionable failure. The following could all have been avoided or had the scope of their damage drastically reduced had better regulation been in place: LTCM and the Asia crisis in the 90s, the flood of bad IPOs in the dotcom era, the subprime and CDO disaster that sparked 2008, the asset bubbles over the last three de…

I just don't understand how 2008 was obviously because of deregulation. Not only is that a contestable claim, but you're simplifying the entire crash to a convenient cause that clearly confirms your biases. Just take a walk over to Wikipedia[1], and you can clearly see that ascribing the crash in 2008 to only deregulation is complete and utter nonsense: The Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 established an…

My understanding was that Freddie (and later Margaret Thatcher's imitation with selling council houses in the UK) were policy decisions made on advice from the then nascent neoliberal movement.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#177
post #173

We live in the techno-utopia today. Food and shelter are not problems anymore. If it were otherwise, we would all be farmer-lumberjacks. It used to be like this, but it's solved now. We have enough for everybody - it's just about spreading the goods a little bit more evenly.

Really? Have you seen the solved problems of food and shelter in places like Detroit?

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#178
post #177
post #173

We live in the techno-utopia today. Food and shelter are not problems anymore. If it were otherwise, we would all be farmer-lumberjacks. It used to be like this, but it's solved now. We have enough for everybody - it's just about spreading the goods a little bit more evenly.

Really? Have you seen the solved problems of food and shelter in places like Detroit?

My comment consisted of five to six sentences, depending on how you count them. It's not hard to read all of them before replying.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#179
post #42

> Taxi drivers protesting Uber aren’t saying that they want apps out of their cabs. Of course they aren't saying that, it would be political suicide to say it. But given the stubborn resistance to even using the credit card readers forced on them by utility commissions, do people really think that cabbies are aching to have apps between them and their customers that would thwart their ability to skip inconvenient far…

I feel like both the left and the right are trying to take us back to some idealized version of the 1950's. I want a political movement based on creating a new and better future, not hanging on to shreds of the past. We now have the technology and resources necessary to provide everyone with adequate food, housing, healthcare, and education. That's what I want, not more "job creation" or preservation of obsolete jobs…

Exactly. Both the left and the right have stasists that think the future can be controlled to produce a steady-state ideal (some by being reactionary and seeking to duplicate an imagined past, others being technocratic and seeking to impose an imagined future), which frequently creates some very strange bedfellows. Meanwhile all their plans keep getting upended by generativity, engines of serendipity, black swans, virtuous and vicious circles, and accelerating returns.

Re: Dear Marc Andreessen

#180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just don't understand how 2008 was obviously because of deregulation. Not only is that a contestable claim, but you're simplifying the entire crash to a convenient cause that clearly confirms your biases. Just take a walk over to Wikipedia[1], and you can clearly see that ascribing the crash in 2008 to only deregulation is complete and utter nonsense: The Housing and Community Development Act of 1992 established an…

My understanding was that Freddie (and later Margaret Thatcher's imitation with selling council houses in the UK) were policy decisions made on advice from the then nascent neoliberal movement.

I honestly don't know. But I do know it's not deregulation when you add more government intervention in markets.
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