The last picture is of the City Musuem. If you are ever near St Louis with kids you have to go there. It is one of the coolest places I've ever been to. http://www.citymuseum.org/site/
You don't need kids to have fun there.
Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
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Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
just to throw some figures at you about how big st. louis is or isn't: > As of the 2010 census, the population was 319,294, and a 2012 estimate put the population at 318,172,[6] making it the 58th-largest U.S. city in 2012. The metropolitan St. Louis area, known as Greater St. Louis (CSA), is the 19th-largest metropolitan area in the United States with a population of 2,900,605. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis
And I'll be the annoying St. Louisan who feels compelled to put these numbers into some context for what feels like the billionth time. St. Louis City is entirely independent from the surrounding St. Louis County and covers an exceptionally small area by the standards of most big cities (~66 sq/mi). Some similar cities have addressed this by merging with their surrounding county (Indianapolis, for example, which is a…
> (As a side note, this way of dividing up the region also has a significant effect on the City's infamous crime statistics, for reasons that should be pretty obvious with a little bit of thought. That is to say, if you define almost any city as only its most inner core, then you're going to end up with much higher crime rates than if you include its suburbs. And if you're comparing one city that doesn't include its suburbs with cities that predominantly do, then, well, you get the idea.)
This applies to many cities in the Northeast as well. The cities are tiny compared to cities in other parts of the country.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#173> If you’re trying to bootstrap, being based in San Francisco is awful. Especially if you have a family. I rented a four bedroom house in a great neighborhood in Sacramento that was a bike ride from Midtown for $2900/mo. We ended up buying a bigger house in the same neighborhood for even less per month. No commute, food is cheap, etc. The cost savings are enormous, and I'm sure it's more expensive than St. Louis... Y…
I know this isn't exactly the best metric, but the demand for programmers in St. Louis seems very low. When I look at Craigslist I see a couple Java jobs, a couple PHP jobs and even one godforsaken VB.net job. Even Jeff Atwood doesn't use VB.net. So I'm doubtful that it would be easier to keep the contracts coming in while in St. Louis.
St. Louis seems to be one of the more attractive places if you can swing security clearance. A lot of defense contractors in the area due to being a larger city plus having a couple large bases nearby.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#174A lot of people say SF/SV/etc is terrible because it's full of Californians, but I've lived all over the country and known lots of people from lots of states and I'd rather live among Californians than Missourians or (god forbid) Texans.
I work with a Texan. Really nice guy and smarter then me but he never talks down to me. He phrases his suggestions as questions and the thicker he lays on the drawl the more likely it is that his opinion will turn out to be good advice.
I know a guy like that. He's not a Texan, I don't think that part matters. He's a retired Chicago cop. I interact with him in the context of volunteer work for a few organizations locally. I have no idea how he does it, but he'll walk up, start chatting, have a question or two, maybe relate a musing he was having, and go on to talk to someone else. Every damn time I find myself doing his bidding and about an hour realizing that fact. I have no idea how he does it, other than he's a wizard. He never says "do this", or "i think you should ...". I've seen it work on many other people as well.
One day I'll unlock that superpower.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#175The last picture is of the City Musuem. If you are ever near St Louis with kids you have to go there. It is one of the coolest places I've ever been to. http://www.citymuseum.org/site/
Wear shoes and clothes you can move in. It really is one of the coolest indoor spaces I've ever seen.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
While I agree that race should have nothing to do with it, culturally it's much more acceptable to talk about white gentrification then gentrification by any other race. Also, in this case I'm not interesting removing the white designator because it really is predominantly white males. Also the gentrification happening in the Mission is very much a race thing. "Keep the Mission brown" is a slogan used by many in this…
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wouldn't mention a thing about race
SF Mission is/was an ethnic neighborhood that happen(ed) to be working class, more than than the other way around. There were many poor-er areas in sf, but you went to the mission for colour, sun, ethnic food, and the fact that nobody was snobby or annoying. It used to be a great place to throw house parties...as long as you weren't violent or setting shit on fire...nobody would ever blink/complain...etc.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
Your comment about "artisinal grilled cheese" earned my upvote. Who knew such a thing existed? Better yet: why?
It's more typically called Panini, which is Italian for "$9 grilled-cheese."
The Italian for "grilled chees" is actually "formaggio arrosto". "panini" is just the plural of "panino", ie, a sandwich.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#178Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, really? I'm living in Scandinavia and looking to move elsewhere. Midwest was one of my options, and I had never thought winters were so bad over there!
Good idea of what it looks like in St Louis: http://weatherspark.com/averages/31697/St-Louis-Missouri-Uni... Humidity was always the killer for me. I remember flying from San Diego to St. Louis. It was 75 degrees and dry in San Diego, and 102 degrees with 94% humidity in St. Louis. I wanted to die, heh That said, I always liked the variety. It means that I have pretty strong, nostalgic feelings associated with the se…
That site is a brilliant resource. Thanks for sharing.
One of my main considerations when moving somewhere is the climate.
It would be cool if the site had links to places with similar climates (could be calculated with some kind of distance metric from all the variables). I loved the climate in Sydney, so it would be nice to see a list of places in the world where it's similar.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#179The current San Francisco influx is unsustainable. If you're somewhere else in the world and thinking about coming here to do a startup, I wish I could convince you to change your mind. San Francisco is incredibly expensive. Rents have shot up by ~50% since 2008, office space is following the same trend, and competition for (even mediocre) programmers is intense. Worse, a lot of the cultural diversity that made San F…
> when you all crowd into the same tiny city and bid up the rents into the stratosphere, your available dating pool shrinks to a puddle (yet another consequence of the skewed gender balance in tech. sigh.) Women don't live in SF? Or are you just talking about women in tech? They're rare everywhere.
Tech workers have a low female population,
SF has a high tech worker population,
therefore SF has a low female population.
I don't know if that's true, but I think that's what the commenter was saying.
Re: Why I'm Moving My Business From San Francisco To St. Louis
#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Detroit isn't like that because all the black people moved in, it's like that because all the white people moved out once black people started moving in.
Then why don't non-white people move in to SF, just like in Detroit? Alright, enough with the wisecracks. The people moving in during gentrification are rich or rather richer than the current residents. Just because the overwhelming majority happen to be white is a mere coincidence arising of multiple factors. These people are not really white/black/brown, their only true color is Green, like the dollar bills in thei…
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