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Post by maxhou »

_mulder_ wrote: post #142
JohnTHaller wrote: post #119

Now that it's fully legal for ISPs to throttle Netflix, Google, et al (thanks, Verizon) and extort money from them in return for giving customers the bandwidth they pay for, I think it's time for all the major players to track performance on the networks and call out the throttlers with a message right over the video stream on their website and in-app (Android, iOS, Xbox, etc). SO, when you use TWC and are getting on…

Just to play devils advocate here, but has anyone fully considered the impact on ISPs that this massive increase in demand is having on them. Especially the hated Cable companies who are seeing customers turn their backs on their own TV products whilst shouting and demanding more and more bandwidth so they can watch (and pay instead) NetFlix et al. NetFlix and YouTube do not pay the ISPs anything. ISPs are not some c…

Thanks for taking the ISP POV for one second.

Keep in mind that generating traffic is nowadays really easy.

For 50k$, you can buy 50 servers with 2x10Gb cards, and generate a constant 1 terabit per second of video streaming data. No monthly fee besides electric bill.

So the "content" provider offers the ISP to host 50 of its cache servers and now the ISP has 1 more terabit of data to distribute over its whole network.

Anyone sees the flaw here ?

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Post by Grue3 »

Youtube videos are terribly slow for everyone, regardless of ISP. Every other video service works much more reliably than Youtube. It's your goddamn fault, Google. Fix it.

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Post by Fogest »

tnorthcutt wrote: post #73

Anybody else see "Results from your location are not yet available." when you hover over "Your Results"?

I see it, however when I was on YouTube while uploading a video and trying to watch a video at the same time I had a little blue message pop up below my video letting me know I can find out more about why load times are slow. I clicked it and it brought me to the page rating my ISP.

It's funny an ISP that uses the same lines as my ISP got an HD-Verified status, and then mine is only SD. Hmmm, throttling much.

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Post by matthewmcg »

opinali wrote: post #153
jsz0 wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The big difference is that each player is already paying for bandwidth at their end We are really only paying for bandwidth to/from our providers. Everything in-between is best effort, nebulous peering arrangements, etc. > But, ISPs charge their customers for 'unlimited' bandwidth I doubt you can find a single residential Internet provider who advertises unlimited bandwidth at this point. The marketing for 'unlimit…

> Way more likely ISPs will do a little deep packet inspection and re-write the page to have a message along the lines of "Netflix & Google are the reason your rates keep going up. Your video is buffering because Netflix & Google want YOU to pay more for Internet service" Haha, good luck with that on increasingly HTTPS-only services.

"You need to configure your browser to trust our SSL certificate authority as part of your account creation and router setup process....oh by the way we are also going to use it to inspect your SSL connections."
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