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It is known that Bach improvised about his works during performances. That means he even left the written notes.
A harpsichord pretty much fails your "test" for "instruments with souls".
why?
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That painting hangs in pretty much every independent coffee shop and cafe in probably 50 countries.
Great, and what does it mean?
You've got to be kidding me. It means it's a painting, not an actual pipe. And by extension, other representational art is not what it represents but something else. But it doesn't matter to you, because the painting is not being performed by a human, and is the same every time you look at it, therefore it, you claim, it doesn't have a soul.
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I say that an old washboard and a bucket of nails can be the equivalent of an orchestra. A computer is no different an instrument in a musicians hands than any other instrument.
My only possible conclusion of your saying is that you have never heard a good big orchestra.
I've played in 2 good big orchestras, 1 nationally ranked. I've even been section lead of one and concert master of an orchestra and a Baroque chamber group. I don't consider myself a great musician, but I definitely know that you've puffed your mind up with so much bullshit you could open a fertilizer plant.
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I've also played wooden spoons, a TB-303, TR-808, TR-909, Classical Violin, Appalachian fiddle, Classical Cello, Classical Piano, Piano Moderne, Three kinds of Organ, Several Synths, Tracker, Marimba, Xylophone, 북, 장고, Kazoo, Slide Whistle, Pot and Pan, 5-gallon drum, Hang, Recorder (modern and classical), flute, penny whistle, Appalachian dulcimer, Hammered Dulcimer, 꽹과리, 자바라, and on and on and on. I'm not even uniq…
I did not say that I can not perform on a MP10. I regularly do, because of practical reasons. All I said is that the Hofmann or any other hand made piano is much better because it has a soul. Just look in the worlds concert halls and see what word class classical pianists prefer.
Because they require less performance effort to get a nice sound, not because they have a soul.
Your argument is like saying "chefs use better ingredients in their restaurant then at home because those ingredients have a soul, while the ingredients they use for home cooking does not".
You are utterly divorced from any reality and live in a trite pedantic fantasy world. Please stop talking to me.
You're simultaneously tiring, limited and boring.
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I did not say that I can not perform on a MP10. I regularly do, because of practical reasons. All I said is that the Hofmann or any other hand made piano is much better because it has a soul. Just look in the worlds concert halls and see what word class classical pianists prefer.
Because they require less performance effort to get a nice sound, not because they have a soul. Your argument is like saying "chefs use better ingredients in their restaurant then at home because those ingredients have a soul, while the ingredients they use for home cooking does not". You are utterly divorced from any reality and live in a trite pedantic fantasy world. Please stop talking to me. You're simultaneously…
No chefs use better ingredients because that leads to better tasting food. As music is a communication method of emotions from human to human, a better instrument is one that leverages emotions. Hand made instruments are far better in this regard than robots or computers because the idea of sound of the craftsman, and therefore his soul and emotions, are built in. That is why hand made instruments sounds far more different to each other than modern CNC made pianos. The hand made ones have personality and taste. Important ingredients for good music.
Do you think there is only one (your) reality in the world?
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why?
I told you two comments ago, you also don't have any reading comprehension. Do you know what a harpsichord is and how it works?
Timing is the most important thing in Music according to Mozart. Are you trying to say that a harpsichord does not allow variations of timing?
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Great, and what does it mean?
You've got to be kidding me. It means it's a painting, not an actual pipe. And by extension, other representational art is not what it represents but something else. But it doesn't matter to you, because the painting is not being performed by a human, and is the same every time you look at it, therefore it, you claim, it doesn't have a soul.
A painting exists to moment it is drawn and it is persistent more or less for at least a few hundred years.
Music on the other hand is ordered vibration of air molecules (and this is something different than a composition, hence the pipe example). These vibrations are vanishing immediately.
Therefore a painting does not have to be performed like music.
Every form of human art has a soul, a painting, or the actually played music. Computer made "art" does not have a soul, although it may have the same physical structure than a human made one.
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My only possible conclusion of your saying is that you have never heard a good big orchestra.
I've played in 2 good big orchestras, 1 nationally ranked. I've even been section lead of one and concert master of an orchestra and a Baroque chamber group. I don't consider myself a great musician, but I definitely know that you've puffed your mind up with so much bullshit you could open a fertilizer plant.
If those orchestras sounded like a old washboard and a bucket of nails, than I definitely do not want to attend a concert.
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A human interpretation of sheet music is a 3 tier soul transformation. Composer - Interpret - Listener. Computer played music has an digital filter that eliminates a lot of soul in between. Music notation is only a recipe for making music. Playing the recipe is not making music.
No, but creating the recipe is making music. You are assuming that more "soul" (whatever you mean by that) is better. I argue that often it is worse: I tend to dislike classical music where the person playing the music adds too much personal flair (or "soul"), because it makes it sound different to what I expect the piece to sound like. To me that added "soul" detracts from the experience more often than it adds. For…
Then you definitely would not like to hear Bach or Mozart themselves playing their own works. It is well known that those improvised on their own works during performances.