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Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by comex »

qwerty_asdf wrote: post #14

I find it irritating that Mozilla now herds its Firefox users toward the Stub installer, and not the full offline-install redistributable binary. The actual download itself is available on the "Systems & Languages" page: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/ This kind of download is important, when you want to try out a new release, without committing yourself to it. For example, let's say you want to load it…

Do you really want to test out a new release of a web browser on a VM without an Internet connection? It seems like you would be missing out on a lot...

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by daath »

p4bl0 wrote: post #11
jessaustin wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jeez, why can't browser developers be more considerate of the poor put-upon user agent-detecting site developer?

Haha, are you making a reference to this gem: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=765645 ?

hahah damn, YWHW is insane.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by Siecje »

My issues with Firefox

1) Signing into Chrome is easier and more intuitive then syncing with a code. Also having your extensions is nice.

2) The Inspect element and console are easier to use in Chrome. (Copy as HTML, etc)

3) I seem to have to click on a YouTube video twice for it to pause in Firefox.

4) Typing search queries in chrome is easier. For example in Firefox, you can't just type define: word to search Google for the definition of 'word', as it complains it is not a known command. I don't often use URL commands and think you should access about:config from somewhere else.

5) In Firefox when you scroll with the mouse you scroll too far per mouse tick.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by w1ntermute »

qwerty_asdf wrote: post #45
untog wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For example, let's say you want to load it up in a VM You've just excluded >95% of Firefox users. Those that do use a VM will know how to get hold of the full installer. If they'd stop making full installs, I would be annoyed. But they're just optimising for the most common use cases.

I know. I know. Believe me, I know. That detail is not lost on me. My complaint is simply that it's hard to find, and for those who want it, there's no real road map or sign postings for where to get it.

They want to keep their website simple. If you're installing in a networkless VM, you probably have the technical experience to know to Google for the full installer.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

#176

Post by Silhouette »

mixmastamyk wrote: post #142
josteink wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They honestly had to though. their aggressive stance on plugins risked losing them significant market share in the Java-heavier parts of the world. They couldn't let a few rogue cowboy-developers with an agenda and complete user disconnect overnight just ruin what Mozilla have spent decades building up.

The plugin is quite dangerous, an "aggressive" stance sounds reasonable to me. In the interest of fairness I keep a similar stance with IE/ActiveX.

The plugin is quite dangerous, an "aggressive" stance sounds reasonable to me.

But what would persisting with claims that Java plug-ins are always dangerous have achieved? By a similar argument, the Firefox team fixes several security vulnerabilities they themselves describe as "critical" in each new six-weekly release, so they ought to have advised users not to run Firefox either. Software has bugs, and security flaws need to be fixed, but something about glass houses and stones kept coming to mind with the previous stance. The new one seems a reasonable balance and a constructive policy, and I welcome it as such.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by jakub_g »

Siecje wrote: post #173

My issues with Firefox 1) Signing into Chrome is easier and more intuitive then syncing with a code. Also having your extensions is nice. 2) The Inspect element and console are easier to use in Chrome. (Copy as HTML, etc) 3) I seem to have to click on a YouTube video twice for it to pause in Firefox. 4) Typing search queries in chrome is easier. For example in Firefox, you can't just type define: word to search Googl…

ad 5: change "mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y" in about:config

ad 4: you can create a bookmark, edit its "location" and "keyword" accordingly. "%s" is the placeholder for the text you type. E.g.

Location: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%s Keyword: g

Usage: Type "g whatever" in the URL bar to launch google search for "whatever".

You just need to extract the minimal URL and place "%s" accordingly. That way you can create multiple ad-hoc search engines, like "so foo" -> google search "site:stackoverflow.com foo" etc.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by Siecje »

jakub_g wrote: post #177
Siecje wrote: post #173

My issues with Firefox 1) Signing into Chrome is easier and more intuitive then syncing with a code. Also having your extensions is nice. 2) The Inspect element and console are easier to use in Chrome. (Copy as HTML, etc) 3) I seem to have to click on a YouTube video twice for it to pause in Firefox. 4) Typing search queries in chrome is easier. For example in Firefox, you can't just type define: word to search Googl…

ad 5: change "mousewheel.default.delta_multiplier_y" in about:config ad 4: you can create a bookmark, edit its "location" and "keyword" accordingly. "%s" is the placeholder for the text you type. E.g. Location: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=%s Keyword: g Usage: Type "g whatever" in the URL bar to launch google search for "whatever". You just need to extract the minimal URL and place "%s" accordingly.…

re 5: I don't mind the speed at which it scrolls, I just want one scroll wheel tick to be less.

re 4: I do have the keyword 'g' set up but it is still easier to not type g[space] everytime. And yes there is ctrl +k but it is still easier in chrome with just one location.

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by iSnow »

josteink wrote: post #69
Silhouette wrote: post #20

Pleased to see they've backed off on the draconian Java restrictions. I now see (with an up-to-date plug-in) three options: always or never active, or ask to activate, with the latter then prompting as a one-time or remembered choice. This seems a much more reasonable balance between trying to protect security and making sure people can get work done than some of the other proposals in recent discussions.

They honestly had to though. their aggressive stance on plugins risked losing them significant market share in the Java-heavier parts of the world. They couldn't let a few rogue cowboy-developers with an agenda and complete user disconnect overnight just ruin what Mozilla have spent decades building up.

Anyone is still using Java in the Browser?

Re: Firefox 25 is released

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Post by mccr8 »

Skinney wrote: post #145
jacob019 wrote: post #119

Getting closer, can't wait for 26 ever since that massive memshrink improvement hit the front page.

More info on this?

I think they are referring to this change: https://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/10/01/memshrink-pr...

Images that aren't visible aren't decoded as they are downloaded, or something like that. It reduces peak memory usage on image-heavy pages. It should be coming in Firefox 26.

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