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Why should people invest past the point of being wrong? If someone proves you wrong, you should change your mind, not keep arguing just to save face.
I like admitting that you are wrong instead of saying "meh I didn't actually care about this."
Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…
On your second link someone posted "it's funny...i came up with the exact same mark a few months back and presented it to a client. Almost uncanny how close it was to this." Perhaps the person who made the logo for this project had the same idea as this commenter.
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Neither of you guys invented these concepts: 1.) Using a padlock to represent computer security. 2.) Using a cartoon chat bubble to represent a way to chat on your computer. 3.) Using a little oval on top of a bigger oval to represent a person. Is it really that much of a stretch to combine the three? I would think that this concept would be pretty standard output from someone with even a moderate amount of visual co…
I don't think this argument is very powerful. If two authors come up with exactly the same sentence, no one would dismiss the coincidence on the grounds that "both sentences are built on top of an already existing language". What matters is how similar the precise combination of visual elements are in the two logos. Yes, it is possible that they were created independently. However, after looking at the "evidence" pro…
"I just got back from the store. I picked up some bananas while I was there."
Both sentences say the same thing. No, they are not completely the same, but neither are the logos in question.
If you want to talk about precise combinations of visual elements, there are LOTS of differences.
Look closely at the logos. The Tox logo makes the person more like a keyhole. The Secure Chat logo uses something more like a natural human silhouette. The ratios of the arc to square are different. The spacing is different. There's a bunch of differences. Frankly, my eye appreciates the the layout and design of the Secure Chat logo... the weights of the Tox logo are a little off... I DO really like the keyhole/person combo, though! So each design has its merits.
The only similarities are the padlock, the chat bubble, and the person.
Just like how in my textual sentences the only similarities are "store", "multiple bananas", and "at some point today".
The point is, the two sentences, one textual and the other visual, both "say the same thing" and are made up of "the same concepts" and "predefined elements of language"... and neither should be considered plagiarism or even that unique to warrant talking about originality...
Apparently, we can't use the name "Tox": http://tox.readthedocs.org/ Here are the most liked alternatives proposed on anther thread: tala whispr mila aspis orwell nota extasi eave fabula
I'm guessing you know it means 'lock' in Hindi? http://translate.google.com/#en/hi/lock
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An hour in, a complaint about icon-plagiarism-via-anonymous-bikeshedding-session is still the top comment on HN for a software project with ambitious technical goals. That in itself is a strong argument for doing one's own work and creating original icons. Assuming for the sake of discussion that Tox is or could be a technically superior solution, do they really want that obscured by this sort of extraneous bullshit?…
It'd be nice if HN allowed us to collapse entire conversations. Maybe with a TL;DR summary. [+] [137 messages] "Bunch of people arguing about logo copyright & design for an open-source project."
Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…
Tox aims to be a secure replacement for Skype. There's several other similar projects, but they are usually hard to set up and use for an average user. Tox is FLOS software developed by community, and currently licensed under GPLv3. We are considering changing the license to something more permissive, so it would be possible to put it on the App & Win8 Stores. Currently, it is in really early stages of development. B…
You guys should really look into the WebRTC project ( http://code.google.com/p/webrtc/ ) so you don't re-invent the wheel with video conferencing with just raw ffmpeg. You could also make web browser clients in the future possibly. It takes quite a bit of QoS and other work to make video conferencing work right! Take advantage of the PhDs that google & co hire and re-use their full time jobs!