This is a good reminder to always be a defensive and aware pedestrian. Just because you have the light or the right-of-way doesn't mean you are guaranteed a safe crossing of the street. Whenever I cross an intersection as a pedestrian I always look both ways (even on one way streets) and I always keep an eye on cars that are still in motion, especially those that don't appear to be slowing down. It's good to make the…
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#172Earlier quoted context omitted.
How so? I think they're just implying that even once police drones are in use it won't necessarily deter suspects from driving erratically.
They won't even know they're there. Small, quiet drones thousands of feet up are practically invisible.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Nationally, it's estimated nearly 300 people die each year as a result of high speed police chases. That's a huge number. I'd love to know how many of those 300 are innocent bystanders. The fact that people involved in the chase (i.e. those running away) lose their lives seems like it's part of the risk.
They don't count those - they don't even count the baby that was in the SUV one guy stole and it flew out of the window during the police chase.
Citation required. The language seems intentionally very vague and inclusive, which seems to be supported by-
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/26/us/alarmed-by-deaths-in-ca...
"Experts say there are few national figures on police pursuits. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration figures, based on reports from police departments, show that 305 people died in pursuits in 1991.
Of these deaths, 250 were reported to be occupants of fleeing vehicles, 46 were third-party victims in uninvolved vehicles, four were occupants of police vehicles and five were pedestrians."
Unless pursuit deaths rose a magnitude plus, I think you are misrepresenting some facts.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
For whatever reason German policing seems to be better in general. Pretty much no high speed chases, no "hail of bullets showdowns" and so forth. Iirc the number of bullets fired by the entire German (Germany=population of 80 million) police in a year was roughly the same as two incidents in LA (and most of those were either warning shots or animal kills). I think it's a cultural issue and criminals in the US are gen…
I grew up in North America and now live in Germany, I can tell you what I think it is. In Germany everyone is required by law to register their address within two weeks of moving. Not registering where you live and accompanying information, etc is illegal. If you move and someone else is now registered where you lived, you are no longer registered. You cannot really do very many things without that piece of paper inc…
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
For whatever reason German policing seems to be better in general. Pretty much no high speed chases, no "hail of bullets showdowns" and so forth. Iirc the number of bullets fired by the entire German (Germany=population of 80 million) police in a year was roughly the same as two incidents in LA (and most of those were either warning shots or animal kills). I think it's a cultural issue and criminals in the US are gen…
I grew up in North America and now live in Germany, I can tell you what I think it is. In Germany everyone is required by law to register their address within two weeks of moving. Not registering where you live and accompanying information, etc is illegal. If you move and someone else is now registered where you lived, you are no longer registered. You cannot really do very many things without that piece of paper inc…
Also, registering stuff like SIM cards on an address you are not registered at is also perfectly fine as that information is stricly for the state. The only interesting value for such companies to get hold from me is the Personalausweisnummer (id card number).
This might differ for outsiders as companies want a valid statement that you have an address here.
However, the german police is very good at finding people (and things), as there is a record on where most of your relatives live... Due to all that being rather complete, it works very well. I had a case where the police called my home number because my brothers car window was wide open on a parking lot in front of his house, 600km away. The police is forced to tow the car in that case, if they cannot reach someone. Also, cars are often tracked by paint. If someone flees in a car involved in a crash, the car can often be found, as paint is very unique to cars and locations (statistically). The databases for this are big and germans are generally okay with them.
There is sometimes a way to put screws on other people where possible. Example speeding: if someone speeds in a car, the registered owner will be asked first, even if the person on the picture is someone else. If the owner is unwilling to identify the person, restrictions might be put on him, e.g. writing a trip journal where he enters each and every trip and driver. Everyone wants to avoid that.
Also, germans prefer to game the system, not to wage war on it ;). Speeding is still rampant and there is a huge number of lawyers specialized on traffic laws that know all tricks to get you out of a ticket. Suing for a 40 Euro ticket is nothing unheard of.
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#177After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.
In New Zealand the police adopted a (highly-publicised) policy of not continuing to chase people who drive away at high speed due to the danger it poses to the public, when it is trivial to just go round to their house the next day and arrest them. The consequences of this have been as follows: 1) Now everybody runs when stopped by Police. OK, not everybody , but the rate has probably tripled. 2) After the police giv…
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#178Was it responsible for the police to chase them at this time? two vehicles full of people involved in some type of criminal activity Was this yet another incident where the police self-escalated the situation? I sure hope there was a precise reason this happened and not that "they smelled pot".
All of the suspects in the fleeing car had outstanding arrest warrants.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-strikes_law
Sometimes these criminals have nothing to lose, over even relatively insignificant infractions that will definitely result in life sentences. Not that I'm condoning criminal behavior in any way.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
I grew up in North America and now live in Germany, I can tell you what I think it is. In Germany everyone is required by law to register their address within two weeks of moving. Not registering where you live and accompanying information, etc is illegal. If you move and someone else is now registered where you lived, you are no longer registered. You cannot really do very many things without that piece of paper inc…
What do you do about the homeless and the people who live in precarious houses that don't really have an address? Or do they not exist in Germany, via public housing or something like that?
Thats the only thing you need is place where official communication with you can happen. In practice, that means that there is some way to deliver letters for you.
Houses without address are pretty hard to find in germany. Building enforcement is very strict and every piece of land is owned and usually has an address before a house is built.
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#180Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gang members are absolutely not equal humans, as they make their life by taking, not creating. Janitors do.
Maybe we should concentrate them in some sort of camps so that they can't 'take' from the good ones anymore.