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Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by powercycle »

sgift wrote: post #142
robomartin wrote: post #117

Seriously, why does ANYONE use anything other than Google Search and Analytics? Why do you willfully choose to expose yourself and your business to what they can do to you? From the article: "A few minutes into my Google-less existence, I realized how dependent I had become. I couldn’t finish my work or my taxes, because my notes and expenses were stored in Google Drive, and I didn’t know what else I should work on b…

This reminds of a story I've read about (big) companies and electricity: At the start of the 20th century it was typical for companies to produce their own electricity. The concerns where basically the same as they are now with Internet services: Your business depends on another company; what will you do if they close down? Or throw you out? And what about the transmission - I've heard the net is not stable? and so o…

Given that there is common law "duty to serve" protection, how is it that many electric utilities are now offering discounts in exchange for installing devices that give them the power to throttle your air conditioner during a heat wave?

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by drdaeman »

trhtrsh wrote: post #111
drdaeman wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Identities and accounts are two separate matters. Accounts can only be some of identity's credentials. You are not your email address (and you should never be considered so), but your email provider can optionally act as one of trusted third parties who can assert your identity. Not the other round. Also, you can't really own a domain name — you can only rent it from your domain registrar, in almost a same manner you…

You can pay for many years in advance, and you can register for auto-renewal. Paying to keep your identity is far better than borrowing it from someone who has made no promises to you.

Well, if possible, I'd really prefer to actually posess my identity (like I possess my GPG keypair) and be the authoritative source of it, not lease it.

I really don't want others to define who I am, and prefer them to merely assert my own definition of myself.

Unfortunately, modern trends of the Web is to make things work in exactly the opposite way.

(Original comment was edited from one-liner to a more verbose explaination.)

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by bconway »

mkup wrote: post #157
sgift wrote: post #142

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This reminds of a story I've read about (big) companies and electricity: At the start of the 20th century it was typical for companies to produce their own electricity. The concerns where basically the same as they are now with Internet services: Your business depends on another company; what will you do if they close down? Or throw you out? And what about the transmission - I've heard the net is not stable? and so o…

Well, there is a plenty of electricity providers, but just one Google.

Really? Most people in the US only have access to one, the same as cable providers. Government-granted monopoly, etc...

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by jbooth »

powercycle wrote: post #171
sgift wrote: post #142

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This reminds of a story I've read about (big) companies and electricity: At the start of the 20th century it was typical for companies to produce their own electricity. The concerns where basically the same as they are now with Internet services: Your business depends on another company; what will you do if they close down? Or throw you out? And what about the transmission - I've heard the net is not stable? and so o…

Given that there is common law "duty to serve" protection, how is it that many electric utilities are now offering discounts in exchange for installing devices that give them the power to throttle your air conditioner during a heat wave?

Probably nobody's challenged them on it, and moreover if they did there'd be the counter-arguments that it's voluntary and that throttling the A/C enhances their service by preventing brownouts.

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by carletes »

flyinRyan wrote: post #158
damncabbage wrote: post #143

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What do you use for spam filtering? I've had terrible trouble with SpamAssassin in the past; can you share an effective config, and are there pre-built spam/ham databases around so you don't need to go through the entire training process? Are you checking RBLs on a regular basis, or is an SPF record and a reputable VPS provider enough to keep you off blacklists? Any other tips for someone wanting to try their hand wi…

DSpam.

Yep, dspam (http://nuclearelephant.com/) works perfectly well for me with the Dovecot integration (http://edeca.net/wp/2010/03/dspam-integration-with-dovecot/)

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by Derbasti »

mokash wrote: post #139

I think we need a paid email provider, someone who's sole business is to provide email services, and maybe a calendar. Someone who you can host your own domain with and someone who's mission it is to ensure their customers have privacy, security and can rely on their services. Someone who doesn't just guarantee their services for as much as you pay for them but someone who is willing to put their ass on the line to p…

Actually, getting a paid email account is easy. Just about every hosting provider out there also offers an email address.

Web access is usually terrible though. If you're lucky, they provide roundcube, which is ok, but certainly inferior to Gmail. If you use IMAP and some desktop client, this might not be a problem.

The hard part is the calendar and contacts. I don't know of any CalDAV or CardDav provider. Your best bet is probably some hosted Exchange solution, which provides ActiveSync.

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by jiggy2011 »

sgift wrote: post #142
robomartin wrote: post #117

Seriously, why does ANYONE use anything other than Google Search and Analytics? Why do you willfully choose to expose yourself and your business to what they can do to you? From the article: "A few minutes into my Google-less existence, I realized how dependent I had become. I couldn’t finish my work or my taxes, because my notes and expenses were stored in Google Drive, and I didn’t know what else I should work on b…

This reminds of a story I've read about (big) companies and electricity: At the start of the 20th century it was typical for companies to produce their own electricity. The concerns where basically the same as they are now with Internet services: Your business depends on another company; what will you do if they close down? Or throw you out? And what about the transmission - I've heard the net is not stable? and so o…

Aren't electric companies also heavily regulated?

AFAIK they can't just cut your power one day because you tripped some arbitrary secret metric.

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by junto »

eloisant wrote: post #166
junto wrote: post #147

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Did you install Roundcube directly via DSM, or indirectly using the DSM Owncloud plugin?

Directly. Would I gain anything by going through Owncloud?

Not sure to be honest. Maybe an integrated login?

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by cpncrunch »

x0054 wrote: post #151
XorNot wrote: post #118

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There's a hardware startup opportunity here somewhere: sell a box which does this for an end-user, and makes it really trivial to setup replication mirrors elsewhere. Probably dies on the platform of "people don't have good broadband".

It's a good idea in general to run a privet cloud. I have been playing with an idea in my had that would make it profitable too, without charging subscription, which is notoriously difficult to do. Rather then hardware solution, a VPS image solution would be best. A VPS image with core email, web, and file services, and an easy way to add more as needed. We really need to decentralize the web again before we start co…

I have a synology box with an SSD, and it works very well. Just make sure you take regular offsite backups.

Re: Dumped by Google

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Post by jamesaguilar »

coldtea wrote: post #159
jamesaguilar wrote: post #91

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I'm not sure what kind of fallacy it would be that I make decisions based on my rationally derived probability estimates. If there is such a fallacy I would love to hear about it.

> I'm not sure what kind of fallacy it would be that I make decisions based on my rationally derived probability estimates. If there is such a fallacy I would love to hear about it. The fallacy that those are "rationally derived probability estimates" instead of numbers pulled out of one's arse in the first place. What gave you the impression that putting random intuition numbers on the P(paid)/P(free) boxes makes it…

> random intuition numbers

Are you talking about intuition numbers, or random numbers? They are fundamentally different things.

Empirical research is not the only kind of rational evidence. See http://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Evidence

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