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Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by dontmindme »

bobthecrusher wrote: post #150
mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

What a fucking cunt. Have you looked into some form of wrongful termination lawsuit? Really, you shouldn't have admitted to anything. This, this right here, this is libel. Plain and simple. She has no proof of you saying anything, your boss merely took her side because she's moderately well known.

Obnoxious and utterly ignorant of the law! Keep it up, clown.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by jodrellblank »

drridta wrote: post #161
mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

If I would be Mr Hank I would go and sue Adria as she took a photo of him and distributed it without his consent. This is a serious privacy issue. I would like to read her post after she gets fired in a similar way because of a photo. I'm sure she would feel the pain.

And you would lose.

> In the United States [..] consent is not as a rule required to photograph people in public places and publish those photos. Hence, unless there are specific local laws to the contrary, overriding legal concerns (e.g., defamation) or moral concerns (e.g., picture unfairly obtained) [..]

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_ide...

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by [deleted] »

Xylakant wrote: post #65
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry but the company were judge, jury and executor, not her. If you report a crime to the police and as a result the person gets sent to prison did you send them to prison? Of course not. She reported something that happened (which the person in question doesn't deny) - that's a reasonable thing to do. The neutral party you ask for should then be the employer who can listen to both sides of the story and work out th…

No, if I witness a scene on the road, take a picture and post it online, then I'm judge, jury and executor. I might be right or might be wrong in my assertion that a crime has happened - but that's not for me to decide. If due to me posting said picture somebody looses his job or gets into any kind of trouble with a lynch mob, that's the consequence of my actions. And if I'm wrong, or overreacted in the course of me…

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Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by ryuujinx »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #66
norabean wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Sorry but the company were judge, jury and executor, not her. What would you do in this day if you were a company? No one wants to be dealing with a potential major sexual harassment case ever. This country is based on such limited knowledge of how to communicate with one another, it is upsetting. This post upsets me because she just sounds like a typical American person in that she used others to attack someone, r…

This doesn't feel like it's a major sexual harassment case in the making but if it is then the damage has already been done and sacking someone can't remove that liability. I hope I'd also look at the cost and difficulty of recruiting decent developers, the opportunity to possibly salvage the PR situation (which I think a constructive approach might get us, unlike sacking someone) and the fact that there seems to be…

I think you underestimate how much "That person has been let go for their misconduct" does to ease PR issues.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by AdriaIsATurd »

mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

You need to stand up for yourself. You made a joke to a friend sitting near you. Adria Richards eavesdropped, then decided to take a picture of you without your consent with the intention of shaming you on Twitter without warning, causing you to lose your job. You shouldn't be apologizing, you should be planning legal action.

Adria Richards should be blacklisted from tech conventions for being a whiny, self important turd.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by taligent »

zshprompt wrote: post #163
selenamarie wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unclear on why you are explaining the internet to me.

Sorry too bummed out about the situation to parse your previous. Everyone is applauding Adria for her courage, but taking someone's photo and posting it on twitter is not speaking out. I know that turning to someone and saying "what you said is offensive to me" or reporting them to the staff is not easy, but nevertheless it was the correct course of action. She smiled and took a picture of those guys. She never even…

> She never even bothered to give them a dirty look.

How old are you ? 10 ? Grow up.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by taligent »

JoCoLa wrote: post #78
mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

This is hypersensitive, passive aggressive, and paints women as fragile and in need of rescuing from every perceived slight. Stop apologizing.

No. It is unprofessional and unbecoming at an outside of work event.

You don't think he would have been fired for a black or Nazi joke ?

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by kanja »

holdenweb wrote: post #154
ianschenck wrote: post #24

What just blows my mind, is that Adria keeps referring to this as an issue against females. The comment (as clarified by the terrible perpetrator elsewhere) was about a part of male physiology and not directed towards any person, male or female. She just keeps repeating how this is some sort of female issue. I frankly don't see the connection. I do see how some puritanical folks could be upset, because you know, sex…

If we want to be understood we had better start communicating more effectively. The onus isn't on others to understand us, it's on us to make ourselves understood.

That absolutely cuts both ways.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by ihateloggingin »

truthbetold wrote: post #166
mr-hank wrote: post #23

Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. She had every right to report me to staff, and I defend her position. However, there is another side to this story. While I did make a big dongle joke about a fictional piece hardware that identified as male, no sexual jokes…

You need to take legal action. You made a joke which hurt someone's feelings. They turned around and made a post which is causing you harm.

You seem to be under the mistaken impression that being fired without cause is somehow illegal in the USA.

In 49/50 states, it isn't. So there is no leg to stand on.

Unless he was employed in Montana.

Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out

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Post by barney-mcgrew »

kaoD wrote: post #157
barney-mcgrew wrote: post #143

Eh. This woman just needs some deep fucking.

Now you made her point valid. Thanks.

That's not all. Today I've also closed my eyes and it caused a chair to temporarily disappear. Pretty cool, huh?

Anyways, she's just upset about a few comments that people made to each other in public. I think she's just an inexperienced, sensitive person who would benefit from my earlier suggestion.

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