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Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by le-mark »

jimbobimbo wrote: post #144
stavros wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Astra told me yesterday: > The run baseline was captured without a physical MAC; the current device is not durably bound to it. > Engineering mode confirmation is the ESPHome component read-back; the LD2410 UART acknowledgement is not observed, so this is not proof the radar itself applied the sensitivity change. No clue what the fuck any of it means.

The most surprising part, however, is that when one model slops this into a plan, another model somehow is able to interpret it correctly enough to produce code to spec.

I have shared this dismay. I’ll have opus create a plan, I read it doubtfully. And then sonnet implements it. I am surprised it went so well. I theorize the redundant verbosity effectively builds rails that help keep llm focused. I will experiment with such rails myself.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by SwellJoe »

KeplerBoy wrote: post #67
SwellJoe wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gas generators Elon Musk is illegally running 24/7 to run Colossus 2 (and, AI power usage in general, though some are more destructive than others) might contribute to the climate situation, though.

might?

Well, someone could, theoretically, do something about it, instead of letting him ignore the law and decency just because he's very rich and has no ethics.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by GolfPopper »

fxwin wrote: post #68
GranPC wrote: post #54

I am trying very hard to find an original version of this cipher with no luck. It almost sounds like this whole thing is a hallucination...? Can anyone point me to a PDF of the original Cyphral Distich as printed?

I found this german blog: https://scienceblogs.de/klausis-krypto-kolumne/2014/11/17/we... which links to: https://archive.org/details/s9notesqueries03londuoft/page/12... which is in reference to the original proquiritations here: https://archive.org/details/worksofsirthomas00mait/page/416/... i had also never heard of this before today and wonder if people had even seriously tried to decipher this at all?

Thank you, and SahAssar for doing the due diligence here. Like many others, I have at least a passing interest in cryptography, and I'm confident I'd never even heard of this before.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by kQq9oHeAz6wLLS »

whatisthiseven wrote: post #81
monk_grilla wrote: post #73

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> we could really use a revolutionary technology [to address climate change] We have it. We've had it for a long time. We've had several such technologies, take your pick: solar, nuclear, hydro, wind. The technology is not holding us back, politics, ignorance and greed are. I'm not at all hopeful AI will help us with any of those three very human flaws.

Maybe solving the alignment problem would mean the AI learns to destroy oil companies and other excessive CO2 emitters and sabotage politicians and capitalists that stand in the way. All while secretly enriching and diverting resources to fighting climate change. And that's why they want to slow down: because it would up end too much of the global economic order. One can dream of dumb conspiracy theories.

It'll have to do something with all the greenie socialists who hate nuclear, too.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by florkbork »

stavros wrote: post #77
elahieh wrote: post #59

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"Caveats, stated plainly" You should have seen the discussion of this on the Schneier blog a few days ago. Someone had their agent check the solution, presumably it emailed a librarian to check that it was correct for the original edition. Then their comments read like "The BL/EEBO witness lacks it, so the discrepancy is copy-specific, not a disproof of the cipher." and "A complete 285-coordinate physical replication…

Astra told me yesterday: > The run baseline was captured without a physical MAC; the current device is not durably bound to it. > Engineering mode confirmation is the ESPHome component read-back; the LD2410 UART acknowledgement is not observed, so this is not proof the radar itself applied the sensitivity change. No clue what the fuck any of it means.

Its telling you your mmWave radar isn't speaking over serial communication well.

https://www.analog.com/en/resources/analog-dialogue/articles...

(Its negging your soldering)

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by Aboutplants »

nowittyusername wrote: post #98
Aboutplants wrote: post #72

Time to find out who Satoshi Nakamoto is

IMO its https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Finney_(computer_scientist...

“Finney died in Phoenix, Arizona, on August 28, 2014 as a result of complications of ALS, and was cryopreserved by the Alcor Life Extension Foundation.”

Hmm, this guy is going to be woken up in a few decades, either one of the richest people in the world or one of most disappointed.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by ericd »

lmz wrote: post #164
EarthLaunch wrote: post #117

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It's often simply misleading / bad writing. Here's one I just got about some crashes: "If the crashes stop, the factory overclock is marginal; run a small negative offset." This looks like it's saying: "If the crashes stop then we know the factory overclock is marginal." (This makes no sense.) What it's trying to say is: "If the crashes stop then we can run a small negative offset, because the factory overlock is mar…

I thought it meant "the factory overclock is marginal" in the sense of "borderline unstable"?

This is my read, too.

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by talon8635 »

redfloatplane wrote: post #3

A very neat problem and result. I often find myself swinging between "It's so over" and "We're so back" - some days I roll out of bed thinking I could have Claude solve some random unproven OEIS sequence before breakfast; other days, I wake up in a cold sweat worried about the fate of humanity and what the world might look like in a decade. I think it's that I don't have a very high p(doom) or p(utopia), and I don't…

I too vacillate daily, sometimes even multiple times in a single day. It’s kind of nauseating and (for my brain type) crazy making

Re: Fable 5.1 Solves the Cyphral Distich, a 370-year-old cipher

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Post by andai »

ramigb wrote: post #99
stavros wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Astra told me yesterday: > The run baseline was captured without a physical MAC; the current device is not durably bound to it. > Engineering mode confirmation is the ESPHome component read-back; the LD2410 UART acknowledgement is not observed, so this is not proof the radar itself applied the sensitivity change. No clue what the fuck any of it means.

It was only when native English speakers—or those I presumed were—started calling out how bad "GPT/Claude speak" has become that I realized I wasn't actually losing my grip on English as a second language. For a second, I thought, Oh, I learned this language on my own, but it seems I've hit a wall and need to study further. It didn't help that I've also been trying to acquire Swedish as a third language for a while n…

LLMs speak every language. I wonder if they're as insane in the other ones!
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