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Two Billion Pixel Photo of Mount Everest (can you find the climbers?)

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Re: Two Billion Pixel Photo of Mount Everest (can you find the climbers?)

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This photo really makes me appreciate the fractal geometry and self-similarity of natural formations. When looking at part of the image w/o any objects of known size for reference I lost all sense of proportion. Tiny "pebbles" were actually boulders, etc.

Same here, couldn't make sense of the proportions in the foreground, I though the valley was a 1m wide track at first

Same thing here! Fractals geometry is very interesting!

Re: Two Billion Pixel Photo of Mount Everest (can you find the climbers?)

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I came to post that- about the mouse movement. It's absolutely driving me nuts. Makes no sense.

I think it's just an artifact of pre-tablet era interaction design (not that this software was actually written all that long ago). Nowadays it seems perfectly reasonable to imagine clicking and dragging the image around in order to pan -- I'm not confident that particular interaction would have even occurred to a lot of people a few years ago, though.

I would say: Pre Google Maps era. I find it perfectly intuitive to click and drag most online maps around, but it might have been weird the first time I encountered it.

For example, I still like to scroll down to go down in a web page, and get confused (and frustrated?) when I use the new mac mice which use the touch-screen/map type scrolling. However I'm quite sure that if I was a mac person, I'd get used to it fairly quickly.

Re: Two Billion Pixel Photo of Mount Everest (can you find the climbers?)

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Not sure if you fully realize the scope with which it's turning into a sort of Disneyland - people are climbing it in an endless convoy. I find it quite shocking. If you do, then I guess we just fundamentally disagree.

(from 2010) 3,142 people have climbed Everest, with 219 dying trying. It isnt disneyland, and I am not shocked at how much Everest has turned into disneyland, we definitely fundamentally disagree.

This is a dead thread, more or less, but I'm a bit embarrassed about this. For posterity:

The footage I've seen was indeed from (and up to) the basecamp. I was quite shocked at what I saw, but I obviously misremembered exactly what it was - the trail to the basecamp. I certainly did not think all those people were reaching the summit, but I did think they were going higher.

I feel like a bit of an idiot, and needed to get that off my chest.

Re: Two Billion Pixel Photo of Mount Everest (can you find the climbers?)

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Can you find the dead climber? That's the real question. I found one already.

Shouldn't be that hard, there are loads of the poor buggers. Just look around the climbing routes, they don't (can't) move most of the bodies AFAIK. Bit morbid though.

I read Into Thin Air, about the 1996 account by a reporter who was with the crew that lost 4 members. After poking around I saw someone saying the Sherpas will kick bodies in the crevasses and they wash out in the Spring. Sad, but with a rate of 1:4 before 1996, then 1:7 after on death ratios its gotten much better. However, it takes money/balls/stupidity to climb that thing.

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Not quite but closer than I would have suspected: Suicide attempt fatality rate: 9% Everest attempt fatality rate: 2% Sources: Climber fatality from attempts through 2006: http://www.adventurestats.com/tables/EverestAgeFat.shtml Suicide estimate from NIH: http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/suicide-in-the-us-statistics-and-prevention/index.shtml

Actually, Everest is considered as on the easier side for an eight-thousander [1]. Annapurna got %38 (2007 figures) [2] and K2 got %25 [3]. For some interesting discussion on Everest fatalities, try this one [4]. "No shortcuts to the top" by Ed Viesturs and the well known "Into thin air" by Jon Krakauer are two good books on the subject, if you want to read more. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-thousander [2]…

Yup, I've read that. The account by the reporter from Outdoors (?) was extremely graphic in detail (but disputed by others in the party). Sad all around, but through those deaths came better regulation which has led to a 1:7 ration of attempts/deaths vs. 1:4 in previous years.
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