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Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by teekert »

teekert wrote: post #4
rvz wrote: post #2

> M5 Ultra features a massive amount of high-bandwidth unified memory, up to 512GB, and delivers a staggering 1.2TB/s of unified memory bandwidth that is 50 percent higher than M3 Ultra. Apple never needed to participate in the AI race to zero. Because they were already at the finish line years ago building their own chips that can run large >100B parameter AI models locally.

Is there anything comparable that runs Linux, doesn't necessarily look as good, but is perhaps (a lot) cheaper/fixable? Or is this really pretty optimal? I mean this is not nvidia based right? It's all custom? So we can use it under Asahi perhaps? I want to get something for my company to run local models, wondering what would be a good option.

I guess, what I mean is: Why are these tiny aluminum boxes so optimal?

I just want my butt ugly repairable beast machine to do the same trick. Why is my ram not unified? I have an iGPU in my server, but it can't access the 64 GB ram (I got last year for 150 euro) directly or something? It's on the CPU right? Why did only Apple go for this architecture? So many questions...

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by geerlingguy »

j45 wrote: post #64
xattt wrote: post #32

Tangential, but what would be the ideal Mac option for home movie editing, casual gaming and amateur CAD fiddling in Fusion? I plan on maximizing my residual student benefits, and taking advantage of education pricing.

The regular Mac mini will blow you away, search YouTube for video editing reviews using different Mac mini’s.

I use both the base M4 Mac mini and an M4 MacBook Air for Final Cut Pro, Photoshop, and Fusion, and while they're not as almost-always-perfectly-smooth as my Mac Studio, they're about 100x better than the experience I used to have on my old Intel MacBook Pros in the 2010s.

I edit 4K ProRes and H.265 footage, sometimes with multicam (up to 4 streams) and color adjustments, titles, etc. It's only after stacking 3-5 effects before things can stutter, really.

Or if you try doing something CPU-intense in the background _while_ running some heavy creative software. I just don't do that.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by marknutter »

cedws wrote: post #153
bubblegumcrisis wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh.. Is there anything better now though? All I see from AI, is an amplification of the enshittification of the internet. And people being even more alone.

Just like the computer revolution, it will make a small number of people richer and put everyone else at their mercy. In real terms the average person is far poorer than in the 20th century. Used to be able to buy a home and support a family on a single income. Now it can take two just to survive.

I wonder if doubling the workforce had anything to do with that..

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by smcleod »

mrtksn wrote: post #16

Apple Studio with maxed out M5 Ultra, 256GB RAM and 16TB storage is 18,299$. The 512GB RAM version apparently is coming in October, considering that the difference between 96GB and 256GB is priced at 4000$, the 512GB upgrade must be eye watering. So, on the mini the RAM upgrade runs at 25$ per GB on all tiers, the same as the Studio therefore the upgrade to 512 will probably cost 6400$. The fully maxed out Apple Stud…

I wish you could drop $20k and get a house! Down payment here store like $100k+ (AUD). So "only" 5~ Max Studios.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by derwiki »

bayindirh wrote: post #117

I know, this is a bit of a meaningless comment, but it's funny in a way. Feels like late 90s again: - Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance. - Apple: *Meep Meep...*

Reading Infinite Games, they tell an anecdote about a Microsoft exec on a flight telling an Apple exec that the Zune was a way better portable music player than the iPod. The Apple exec was just “yup, you’re probably right” and then soon after the iPhone dropped

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by jayGlow »

shric wrote: post #109
jgalt212 wrote: post #73

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when was the turing test beaten?

It depends who takes the test. I am not yet, to my knowledge, fooled by AI. I've tried [1] and I almost 100% detect which is the AI. I really want to convince myself I have failed, does anyone know of a better site/resource for this? I know it might be moving goalposts but I would consider AI to have passed in a well and truly undisputed manner when [2] is resolved. But in a more practical sense, if AI can impersonat…

we might need to bring back the Voight-Kampff test. anthropic at the very least is introducing a water making system to Claude which might make them more identifiable to humans as well as much easier to detect for machines.

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by derwiki »

ziofill wrote: post #126
intrasight wrote: post #56

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So is downpayment on a house. I would buy the house and just pay for tokens as needed. The house will get more valuable and that wealth would buy a lot of tokens in the future - which will probably get cheaper. EDIT: or buy AAPL. If I had bought Apple stock instead of buying a Mac LC II in 1992, then I would have about $2 million in Apple stock.

where are downpayments so cheap? I'll move there ^^'

Coshocton, Ohio, plenty of houses for <100k

Re: Apple introduces M6 and M5 Ultra

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Post by RankingMember »

forinti wrote: post #149
bayindirh wrote: post #117

I know, this is a bit of a meaningless comment, but it's funny in a way. Feels like late 90s again: - Xiaomi: We have matched Apple in CPU performance. - Apple: *Meep Meep...*

Cheap RAM in 500 yards. ->

[apparent tunnel to cheap RAM painted on rock face]
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