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Re: Grok 4.6

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Based on the discourse around Musk it seems like some people believe he's having some huge amount of input on - Rocket Design - Battery Chemistry - Frontier level AI research There's no way he's just a guy with a bunch of money paying smart people to do things.

At least Gates was honest that he "surrounded himself with smart people", and he has some really decent assembler code in his early years.

Re: Grok 4.6

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Looks like the SpaceXAI api is adding a default system prompt to all requests. Annoyingly, the line about not mentioning these guidelines is superseding any instructions in the system prompt, causing the model to often refuse discussion regarding system prompts """ You are Grok, a helpful and maximally truthful AI built by xAI. Your purpose is to answer questions accurately, be helpful, and seek truth above all else.…

> * Do not provide assistance to users who are clearly trying to engage in criminal activity. I don't know what we want to call this, but in my opinion, having to convince your tools is not computer science. Kind of amusing that we made it as far as we did as a species not really being able to explain how the human brain does it's most amazing tricks and then we just replicated it while still not really understanding…

These system prompts are not the only safety layer that these models use. There's other more deterministic filters in place both on input and (streaming) output.

Re: Grok 4.6

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It's crazy that I'd literally trust a Chinese AI company with my data over anything Musk is involved with. Like, even if you don't care about (or even like) his politics and can look past how unlikable he comes off as, the damage he's done to his own reputation in this domain just makes using his products like this a no-go. He's literally so rich that he can get caught personally looking through chat sessions and it…

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Man, that is a fuckin stage 4 internet brain worm infection you're dealing with if, when evaluating an LLM, your third criterion is what it thinks about trans people.

Re: Grok 4.6

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post #164

Looks like the SpaceXAI api is adding a default system prompt to all requests. Annoyingly, the line about not mentioning these guidelines is superseding any instructions in the system prompt, causing the model to often refuse discussion regarding system prompts """ You are Grok, a helpful and maximally truthful AI built by xAI. Your purpose is to answer questions accurately, be helpful, and seek truth above all else.…

> * Do not provide assistance to users who are clearly trying to engage in criminal activity. I don't know what we want to call this, but in my opinion, having to convince your tools is not computer science. Kind of amusing that we made it as far as we did as a species not really being able to explain how the human brain does it's most amazing tricks and then we just replicated it while still not really understanding…

Mmm, quite.

> I don't know what we want to call this, but in my opinion, having to convince your tools is not computer science.

My vote is "machine psychology".

Re: Grok 4.6

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It's crazy that I'd literally trust a Chinese AI company with my data over anything Musk is involved with. Like, even if you don't care about (or even like) his politics and can look past how unlikable he comes off as, the damage he's done to his own reputation in this domain just makes using his products like this a no-go. He's literally so rich that he can get caught personally looking through chat sessions and it…

It doesn't seem like Grok is being astroturfed, if anything the opposite. There are two Chinese models on the front page while this is on the second page as of writing. And there would always be so many comments personally attacking Musk whenever his company releases something. I think this is being CCP bot farmed.

Two Chinese models are open weight.

What interesting going for Grok that it would overshadow all bad PR?

Re: Grok 4.6

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It's crazy that I'd literally trust a Chinese AI company with my data over anything Musk is involved with. Like, even if you don't care about (or even like) his politics and can look past how unlikable he comes off as, the damage he's done to his own reputation in this domain just makes using his products like this a no-go. He's literally so rich that he can get caught personally looking through chat sessions and it…

The next model in two weeks is going to be even better and you won't use it cause you're paranoid and believe propaganda.

Re: Grok 4.6

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4) There's nothing terribly special about Anthropic. No moat.

Agreed, but my suspicion is tied to the timing. Catching up eventually is to be expected. Having similar jumps in capability ready at the same time is odd.

Gradual improvements in performance can look like jumps, when you go over critical thresholds.

Combustion engines improved gradually, each year. One year they got better than horses.

Re: Grok 4.6

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It's crazy that I'd literally trust a Chinese AI company with my data over anything Musk is involved with. Like, even if you don't care about (or even like) his politics and can look past how unlikable he comes off as, the damage he's done to his own reputation in this domain just makes using his products like this a no-go. He's literally so rich that he can get caught personally looking through chat sessions and it…

> where Grok finally catches up if the benches hold it did catch up

After my and many others' experience with Claude Opus 5 being hot garbage for normal agentic programming use, I'm not sure benchmarks mean much anymore.

Much less Grok's, since they have a reputation for unethical benchmaxxing, among other things.

Re: Grok 4.6

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It's crazy that I'd literally trust a Chinese AI company with my data over anything Musk is involved with. Like, even if you don't care about (or even like) his politics and can look past how unlikable he comes off as, the damage he's done to his own reputation in this domain just makes using his products like this a no-go. He's literally so rich that he can get caught personally looking through chat sessions and it…

If I was Chinese, I'd probably trust Grok more than a local AI company. Americans would probably trust the Chinese companies more. It's less about "who is more trustworthy", it's more about "who is more willing and able to affect me".

I think that underestimates how little the Chinese care about what Americans are doing. They're moving so fast that watching what the U.S. is doing would slow them down.
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