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Is the learning curve steep to use this software?
Very steep, at least in my experience. Even compared to Cinema 4D and Blender which I grasp the basic just in 1-3 days. Darktable doesn't use industry standard UI/UX so you need learning from zero.
See also: https://ansel.photos/en/
> This is basically admitting that the design is so terrible that it’s verging on unsable without reading the doc. But wait, what are we doing again ? We are copying pictures. We are copying pictures ? So did you pass your picture-copying exam and got your picture-copying degree ? If you didn’t, you should. Watch out, they might turn this into a quizz in a future version and disable the feature if you fail it.
As a software engineer, I understand this, but the tone also deeply bothers me. I want to use tools made by people who enjoy working on it, not by people working on it out of spite and hate for upstream.
Just make a better product. I don't understand the need to constantly shit on darktable.
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I haven't heard of either, but have been hoping for a replacement for Aperture for years. Having no knowledge of the history here, reading the `ansel` github page sounds like the developer has some animosity towards `darktable`. Does anyone have any experience with both? Or more knowledge of the history here?
The history is that Aurelien Pierre was leading some big changes in Darktable around the time the filmic module was introduced and the bigger switch from rethinking the internal architecture and processing pipeline to be happening in the right color spaces before things get crammed down into the RGB display color space. There's a lot of subtlety to that. But it boils down to a lot less rounding errors and loss of inf…
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> Meet Chantal, your image processing AI librarian Instant pass. Edit: This appears to be their 'knowledgebase' and not something baked into the app.
It's just an ordinary search engine for the specialized topic. Aurelien Pierre is being overly dramatic here, it's in his character.
Under Chantal, there use to be Word2Vec, now replaced by FastText. Aka a shallow neural network building a language model that understand synonyms and some EN/FR translations, by embedding words as vectors in a vector space built so cosine distance represent semantic distance. It was called AI when Google published Word2Vec and Facebook FastText, I didn't made it up.
I mean, I wrote 2 articles on the topic explaining how it's built. Each page in the index is represented by the centroid of all the word vectors it contains, then it computes the cosine distance between the centroids of the pages and the centroid of the request and returns the closest matches. Aka not your regular grep.
Overly dramatic yourself, Internet minion. All opinions and zero substance.
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> Meet Chantal, your image processing AI librarian Instant pass. Edit: This appears to be their 'knowledgebase' and not something baked into the app.
I can't find that on the page. Edit: I finally found a reference. It's a separate project that has nothing to do with the photography stuff. Right? It's a way to search the docs?
So Chantal is the missing link in all that, it lets users be autonomous while researching their questions while aggregating various sources of knowledge on photography software, color science, bugs and docs. It's Ansel docs and much more (ICC, CIE, academic journals, forums, etc.)
I don't edit RAW too often so haven't invested the time and effort into Darktable. I have been very impressed by digiKam for organization and catalog management though. I refuse to be sucked into another proprietary database (e.g. Lightroom) and utilities like osxphotos made it easy to turn Apple photos into regular files that digiKam serves up nicely. My goal is to have access to the entire 'archive' on my NAS. I do…
I've been thinking of getting refern.app[1] to organize and catalog images... Have you used that? Do you have an opinion of how it stacks up against digiKam for the organization use case? Right now, I'm using a bunch of vibe-coded scripts[3] to help me out; for example, here is a gallery wall of ~500 vintage sci-fi book covers[4] that I generated with it. But I think I've taken the CLI approach as far as it can go an…
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Killer feature is intuitive UX. Using DarkTable was an exercise in frustration for me. In darkroom mode you can’t navigate to other photos with cursor keys. Since the cursor keys do nothing else I have no idea why the aren’t bound to the nav. You have to double click on a photo to select it, one click does nothing so again I have no idea why not just bind single click to select. Then it recenters the entire row on wh…
Have you looked at the documentation? In Darktable you can click the questionmark, then click on any feature, and very extensive, well written documentation walks you through how, when and when not to use each module and feature.
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> Darktable is however, bad at photograpy organization and collections. It's like saying Microsoft Word is bad as an IDE. That's because it's not and IDE. And Darktable is very explicit that it is not for photography organization and collections.
well then it doesn't sound competitive with software like Lightroom (which its name seems to mirror)
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It's just an ordinary search engine for the specialized topic. Aurelien Pierre is being overly dramatic here, it's in his character.
You dumb or what ? Under Chantal, there use to be Word2Vec, now replaced by FastText. Aka a shallow neural network building a language model that understand synonyms and some EN/FR translations, by embedding words as vectors in a vector space built so cosine distance represent semantic distance. It was called AI when Google published Word2Vec and Facebook FastText, I didn't made it up. I mean, I wrote 2 articles on t…