Earlier quoted context omitted.
On the other hand, why care what the American founding fathers thought? There have been two centuries since then of developments in democratic countries that some Americans could choose as a model they like more. And now it's the Chinese century anyway.
To be fair, there have been a few democratic developments since the founding fathers were around. 27 at the last count.
GrapheneOS Defends Data-Wiping Function That Blocked US Border Search
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#172Duress hidden profiles viability statement:
https://xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/status/2082153517234676150#m
Regular defenses statement:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/40700-grapheneos-protection...
Discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49055169
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#173any reason with graphine os to wipe vs power off? Unless you have an easy bfu password doesn't it protect you from multiple password attempts?
We published a technical overview of how GrapheneOS protects against data extraction covering the major protections it adds:
https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/40700-grapheneos-protection...
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#174Couldn’t GrapheneOS provide a special pin which boots into an “empty”session? Where the user can install some default stuff to not look suspicious?
People are doing that in Belarus (since 2020 the repression still continue). You also need to create a convincing profile and story for all the usual apps. Alibi if you wish.
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#175Couldn’t GrapheneOS provide a special pin which boots into an “empty”session? Where the user can install some default stuff to not look suspicious?
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#176Couldn’t GrapheneOS provide a special pin which boots into an “empty”session? Where the user can install some default stuff to not look suspicious?
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#177Couldn’t GrapheneOS provide a special pin which boots into an “empty”session? Where the user can install some default stuff to not look suspicious?
It would be easily detected by widely used forensic software from Cellebrite and other companies. It would also definitely look suspicious. We explained in much more depth in response to a related proposal: https://nitter.net/GrapheneOS/status/2082153517234676150#m
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#178It is illegal to lie to a police officer in the US. It's better to remain silent than to tell a lie. Giving a false PIN is a lie. And that by itself is a crime. I'm not taking sides here, I just wanted to make that clear. And you should understand that they can lie to you. That's OK and legal, but you cannot lie to them.
But if an officer gets a confession by saying, "They just passed an amendment, and you don't have the right to a lawyer anymore, so you have to answer my question or I'll send you to a torture dungeon", that is a lie that can harm anyone, regardless of guilt.
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#179Earlier quoted context omitted.
while attempting to avoid armchair-law-interpreting because I really do not intend that, and I agree that this is going to be an interesting/deeply-worrying legal case: wiping the device before carrying it across the border seems essentially identical to me. like, saying "you can't wipe it when searched" would also imply "you can't have an empty device when crossing because it may have been wiped before the search to…
To my knowledge, no citizen has ever been prevented from reentry due to a blank or absent device. In fact they cannot block a citizen’s legal reentry for any reason, they can only detain you while they investigate. Beyond this, “I dropped my phone in the ocean” is always a perfectly valid reason. If you’re a foreigner and they already suspect you of something, they can deny you entry for any reason. It may be better…
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#180And this is why part of my plans for any international travel are to simply have a physical notebook with phone numbers to trusted friends/family and to buy throwaway devices on the other side (phone and chromebook or similar). TBF, similar mindset if I ever attend defcon, etc. as well.
I currently fly to the USA through Canada and if CBP ever insists on seeing my phone I will revoke my application to enter and accept that Im most likely banned from entry for a while.