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I flashed a pixel using their webpage. They have made it remarkably simple to do.
How do you know what they installed? Also, I understand that GrapheneOS installs are very simple now.
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GrapheneOS implements its own attestation so you can attest that it's real GrapheneOS. The valid approach they've chosen is to try and get on a level playing field with the big guys rather than destroy the playing field. They have a good argument their OS is very secure, so you should accept its attestation. This is how a user-friendly OS backdoors into the attestation system. I still think destroying the playing fie…
> so you can attest This isn't about you attesting anything though. It's about corporations attesting that your device is 100% corporate owned. Can't have you running software that impacts their bottom line after all. GrapheneOS could be the most secure operating system to ever exist, it doesn't matter to the corporation because it's still under your control. When they say "security", they mean "the corporation's sec…
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What do you think are the non-shady android distros?
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GrapheneOS only supports devices that meet the baseline hardware security requirements. Pixels arent "poisoned" and there is no evidence to suggest any hardware backdoors exist, and quite a lot of evidence to show they dont exist.
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I mean, some obvious things are there in the article, IMHO - - App isolation and hidden profiles (up to 32 separate profiles) - Verified Boot (tamper detection on every startup) So you can do stuff on there that's not going to tip off someone who's controlling enough to demand to see your phone, and so you'll at least be tipped off if someone compromises it.
> hidden profiles (up to 32 separate profiles) I am a happy user of GrapheneOS, I don't know about "hidden" profiles. I am not sure what they are talking about. > App isolation That's an Android thing, not specific to GrapheneOS. > Verified Boot (tamper detection on every startup) That's an Android thing, not specific to GrapheneOS.
Very weird post, I dont see how a victim with not enough agency to control what apps are on their phone will somehow be able to install a custom os
You'd be surprised how easy GrapheneOS is to install. You literally do it through a browser with your phone connected via USB.
It's absolutely insane that phones have online accounts deeply integrated into the OS. You need to give Apple your phone number to download any apps on iOS. For example: Say anyone that downloaded IceBlock commited crime, Apple could give the govt everyone who downloaded its phone number, the govt could get the realtime location of everyone based on their phone number from the carrier. And that's not even mentioning…
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Natively it doesn't. There are 3rd party camera apps that support it, but you'd have to download them separately. GrapheneOS camera app is fine but nothing outstanding. It will give you decent pictures but don't expect any fancy upscaling or editing features.
But you can install google camera without giving it network permissions.
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Ok, but this is outright a scam for those victims, you realize that? A company profiteering massively from vulnerable people.
There are a bunch of companies selling devices with GrapheneOS at a significant markup despite it being very easy for non-technical people to install it themselves in 10 to 20 minutes. There's a lot of demand for it and companies set prices based on what they can get away with charging. The linked post is a mess which was probably generated with an LLM. GrapheneOS does have useful properties for this even though it i…
I mean in the long run, it should be a good thing to separate out the hardware phone market from the OS it comes with IMO. And for large scale adoption, it's extremely useful to have the most non-technical people using your OS, because they will complain and bugs will get reported (maybe not through the preferred channels, though).
No notes on the markup though. Infuriating there's no negotiating ability to say "you can't sell this OS on a cheap phone for 600% margins".