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The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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How effective is his giving?

Blue Star Families Inc

https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/800...

They spent $23M in 2024, 10.7% went to executives and 24.4% went to other workers.

From the 2025 Impact Highlights of their website:

- 300,000+ military and family veteran families supported

- 12,290 families were helped by Nourish the Service

- 726 virtual, 1567 in person events

- 10,000+ military voices shared through surveys etc.

- 200,000+ new families joined

https://bluestarfam.org/about/

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Craigslist is often held up as an example of a company "doing it right", but what is never mentioned in these posts is that a large portion of their revenue comes from facilitating scams. Around 25% of rooms/apartments I contact are scams, and Craigslist has so far done nothing to prevent these. A common scam is to take pictures from a real estate site of a house that recently sold and advertise it as for rent, but t…

Ask for more regulation.

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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It is great that he’s doing this and it’s making the world a better place.

It’s a bit disappointing that in articles like this there’s relatively little discussion around what organisations receive the money and what impact it has. We should ultimately judge people by that, not abstractly by “charity == good”? If a billionaire donates millions to the Against Malaria Foundation I would judge that differently than a donation to an art museum in a developed country - and I think people should, and it matters morally.

The difference between for profit and non-profit isn’t really important either compared to “what concretely did they spend money on and what does that plausibly achieve”.

(Tbc some cause areas he donates to are explained, and they seem reasonable and close to his life, but unfortunately not in any depth).

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's easy to give away money if you have it. You'd think that, and yet so few of them give anything significant away (unless you count political donations). For every one Newmark or MacKenzie Scott who does give there are hundreds who only use charitable trusts as a tax haven, if at all. So when one of them manages to avoid the extreme-wealth-to-meanness pipeline theorized by Paul Piff (et al) I'm happy to recogniz…

> MacKenzie Scott What exactly has been achieved with the billions MacKenzie Scott has given away? She seems to do very little vetting of the organizations she donates to. And upon a cursory inspection, they mostly seem like the kinds of organizations where most of the donor dollars go to white collar non-profit employees that produce little in the way of results, with very little going to needy people. I feel like t…

Not really interested in arguing about whether or not she is giving her money away perfectly or to the best causes according to your (or my or anyone's) standards.

She gets credit from me for doing actual philanthropy instead of just cosplaying it for tax purposes, which has been the norm even for quite a few of the other "giving pledge" donors.

As far as bolstering government programs go, I'd love to see billionaires doing more in that area, but I'd also like to see us tax wealth properly to fund the government doing the government's job.

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Is Craigslist still the go-to classifieds site in some places? Around here it’s (very sadly IMO) been almost completely replaced by Facebook Marketplace, to the extent that people make Facebook accounts just to use Marketplace.

I use ND first, then CL. I've used FB a few times, but mostly it's been scammers (though I have friends who swear by it).

CL is a killer app!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Markoff

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Beasley_(serial_killer...

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Craigslist is often held up as an example of a company "doing it right", but what is never mentioned in these posts is that a large portion of their revenue comes from facilitating scams. Around 25% of rooms/apartments I contact are scams, and Craigslist has so far done nothing to prevent these. A common scam is to take pictures from a real estate site of a house that recently sold and advertise it as for rent, but t…

Yes. Even if you take out revenue from scams, it does not change the question of what Craigslist could or should have done regarding governance. Craigslist adhered to basic features and community volunteers partly to avoid responsibility. The org had no problem enforcing its moat around UGC (posts) with lawsuits but only at after extraordinary foot dragging did they implement basic advancements in the best interests…

Anon.penet.fi is clear prior art - from 1993[1].

Anyone who thought they had invented something new here were kidding themselves.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penet_remailer

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Except capitalism is a zero sum game. The two people you talk about that are multimillionaires are lucky. For each person you know that has made it, there are thousands of people that are equally as hardworking/talented but are destined to slum away for the rest of their lives. All human beings deserve to live a happy life. We live in a world where few have accumulated more capital than they could ever spend in their…

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Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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I think he has given away a whole lot more than half a billion dollars when you think of the opportunity squandered to grow CL the way other unicorney companies grew

it was an intentional choice to not go big. I can seriously respect that. I feel like all these "big tech leaders" like Zuck or Musk have some pretty blatant mental health issues, its a path with significant drawbacks because that level of absurd wealth causes issues.

As if casually having the ability to give away half a billion dollars is not absurd wealth?

Re: The founder of Craigslist has given away half a billion dollars

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Craigslist is the pinnacle of web sites. True brutalist web design.

Pinnacle because it was a simple, functional website back when it started in '95. Back when UI design didn't cost millions of dollars with MBs of crap JS clogging things up.

Come off it. Adding a few lines of CSS to give things reasonable contrast and spacing is not "millions of dollars". 2005 called, they want their jQuery back.
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