Totally agreed!
Open source AI must win
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#172I feel with current government decision to block Fable, this is not a mere opensource issue, considering how US government restrict frontier models, what we need is sovereignty for every country. If not they will release every model with a kill switch in future like F35.
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#173In the US -- once our nation finishes attacking our own education system -- this is definitely something a group of academic institutions could get together and accomplish. I assume the same is true in other countries. Companies like Nvidia and AMD might even support that effort, as they make money on the hardware and would probably be more than happy for there to be more reasons to use it. There may have not been a…
Wait, which side is blocking kids fork taking algebra or forcing universities to admit people that can't do math or read, or abandoning phonetics for unproven methods that don't work?
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#174Did open source phones win? No, iPhone is pretty dominant.
Did open source operating systems win? No, MacOS/Windows are pretty dominant.
Does open source... cloud hosting, social media, ride sharing apps, you name it win? Not in my experience?
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#176Open-source AI can, by definition, never "win". AI is just hillclimbing today, and closed labs can always absorb everything the open world does and build upon it. It doesn't really matter for most use cases, because the way AI is working is capability saturation. https://www.delanceyukschoolschesschallenge.com/the-rising-t... The only exception to this is fields that are inherently adversarial (to nature or others) a…
Those closed labs need to justify the investment still, and as we approach stagnation in model capabilities that’s harder and harder. Right now Fable and Mythos are cutting edge, but soon enough they’ll be commodities. And for every company like OpenAI/Anthropic that wants to get ahead with a SOTA model, there’ll be a hundred companies aiming to commoditize their complements.
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#177I think articles this light on content should not be upvoted to front page.
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#178In the US -- once our nation finishes attacking our own education system -- this is definitely something a group of academic institutions could get together and accomplish. I assume the same is true in other countries. Companies like Nvidia and AMD might even support that effort, as they make money on the hardware and would probably be more than happy for there to be more reasons to use it. There may have not been a…
Wait, which side is blocking kids fork taking algebra or forcing universities to admit people that can't do math or read, or abandoning phonetics for unproven methods that don't work?
It's the US, both "sides" of that coin are bad with examples pro and con all over the shop.
Still, to specifically give a partial answer to your poor faith rhetorical just askin' musing: Florida Conservatives
(specifically turfing nerds from New College of Florida and bringing an excess number of baseball sports bro's to a place that likes math and has no baseball field)
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#179In the US -- once our nation finishes attacking our own education system -- this is definitely something a group of academic institutions could get together and accomplish. I assume the same is true in other countries. Companies like Nvidia and AMD might even support that effort, as they make money on the hardware and would probably be more than happy for there to be more reasons to use it. There may have not been a…
Wait, which side is blocking kids fork taking algebra or forcing universities to admit people that can't do math or read, or abandoning phonetics for unproven methods that don't work?
stop talking please
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/22/okla...
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#180what is Open Source AI even? to me Open Source, like Free Software, is something i can run on my own computer. any AI system that runs on a computer that i do not control is by my definition not Open Source. so how then can Open Source AI win? it can't even compete. even if we collect enough money and create a dedicated Open Source organization to build and run a community owned AI datacenter, how does that help? so…
Qwen models are actually very competitive with frontier models, and you can run them on your local computer. Gotta have a decent graphics card and by that time the current cost of the rig may not justify it over paying $100/month for cloud model but it’s all out there.
Qwen is still controlled by Alibaba, one company. We can't let the future be in the hands of a few companies, can we?
Fun fact: Qwen was not initially a Apache Licensed project, it was based on a custom license from Alibaba that restricts commercial use: https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen/blob/ba2d85a13b28ed1ee0dde2d6.... There's no guarantee that they won't just switch it back later.
Kudos for them for switching to Apache License, of course. BUT, they're still a for-profit company. So as DeepSeek btw.