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Re: WSL 2 is getting faster Windows file system access

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Post by Max-Limelihood »

thewebguyd wrote: post #153
pjmlp wrote: post #122

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Basically the Apple and Google stuff that others like so much.

All 3 (Apple, Google, Microsoft) share a lot of the same negative behaviors, but only Apple and Google get a free pass for some reason. Microsoft is worse in many aspects, but look at the recent debacle with NightmareEclipse and how shitty MSRC is. Apple pulls the same crap and are even less transparent about security, but they get a free pass in tech circles for some reason.

I don't think Google gets a free pass--kind of the opposite, it gets the lion's share of the criticism (especially for privacy stuff) despite being the most open and up front about what they're doing, since they open source most of their operating system.

I don't think there's any company that's done more to support transparent open-source software except Red Hat. Hell, in true Google style, they've built not one, not two, but four separate FOSS operating systems (Android, ChromiumOS, Fuchsia, and at this point it's time to admit Chromium itself has become an OS-within-an-OS), as well as being the second-biggest contributor to Linux.

Re: WSL 2 is getting faster Windows file system access

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Post by alyandon »

SomeUserName432 wrote: post #121
kaelwd wrote: post #99

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Onedrive constantly trying to steal all my files, bing in the start menu, windows update hogging resources then rebooting at the worst time, offline updates taking fking forever even with a fast SSD, layers and layers of bloat and garbage we have to click through or remove on new installs, removing customisation features and taking a decade to half-ass a control panel rewrite, I could go on...

> Onedrive constantly trying to steal all my files By default setting, windows defender will upload "suspicious files" to Microsoft. A while back I caught it trying to nab my OpenVPN installer which also contains the certificates.

I turned sample submission off permanently via group policy after catching defender uploading places.sqlite out of my Firefox profile.

Re: WSL 2 is getting faster Windows file system access

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Post by pjmlp »

hparadiz wrote: post #160
pjmlp wrote: post #151

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No need, I am fine running Linux distro headless for containers, or having Android and WebOS userspace instead on my other devices. Gemini told me it was a good decision.

You do know that one is literally the worst one right? It's like you walked in and went "I'm using Netscape" Well whatever you'll find out.

Nah the worst one is the Nazi Grok.

Re: WSL 2 is getting faster Windows file system access

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Post by 0x1d7 »

tssva wrote: post #169
throwa356262 wrote: post #137

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"NTFS itself is a fast file system" File access is significantly slower on Windows compared to Linux on the same hardware. You can run Linux inside a VM and it will easily beat the host OS in filesystem performance. If the problem is not NTFS, then it is in how the Windows OS uses it

> If the problem is not NTFS, then it is in how the Windows OS uses it Isn't that exactly what the comment you are replying to is saying?

This is correct. The flexibility of the file system filter model does have a performance penalty and you will see that across file systems.

This is why 'DevDrive' exists for ReFS, to reduce that penalty (though ReFS comes with it's own, namely in write performance due to journaling).

The model wasn't a big deal back in the day of IDE and SCSI, but it certainly shows on flash storage.

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Post by rounce »

torginus wrote: post #108
rounce wrote: post #103

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Out of interest are they running OKM or proprietary driver?

Proprietary for now, not sure how good the open source one is. But the proprietary has many quirks/bugs and limitations especially when i comes to things like Linux specific Vulkan extensions. I don't know the full story, but afaik, AMD/Intel Mesa based drivers are fully open source and are built in a much more Linux-native way. But unfortunately hardware choice is out of my jurisdiction.

I’ve run the open kernel module for some time and it seems to work well although I had to patch it to fix support for some VR hardware until upstream fixes it properly. What Vulcan extensions were you having issues with?

Re: WSL 2 is getting faster Windows file system access

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Post by anamax »

foepys wrote: post #73
anamax wrote: post #59

I switched from WSL (reconn'd to WSL1) to WSL2 because I thought that WSL1 would be abandoned. However, the shell for WSL2 runs in a window that grabs things, such as ^V. So, ssh from WSL2 (to AWS for example) is awkward. For exampl, Emacs on the AWS box is almost unusable.

Are you using the Windows Terminal app? CMD or Powershell are yanky but Windows Terminal solved a few icks for me. https://github.com/microsoft/terminal winget install --id Microsoft.WindowsTerminal -e

I'll try it.

And if it works, I'll wonder why microsoft doesn't make the ubuntu button use terminal.

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