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32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by mathgeek »

nickjj wrote: post #165

I'm sure it doesn't help that people continue to buy things at this price. Steam Deck had a huge price increase (~40-50%) but it still sold out in 24 hours. All it would take is for everyone not to pull the trigger on buying things for a little bit and prices would fall but instead enough people are buying things at a crazy markup. If anything that's a signal to sell things at higher prices. Of course AI is amplifyin…

> I'm sure it doesn't help that people continue to buy things at this price.

Implicitly, but that's blaming the consumer who has no or few equivalent choices. Purchasing RAM is not like choosing between Coke and Pepsi. A better analogy is that when a hurricane is coming or a natural disaster has already hit, it doesn't help that people will purchase food and fuel at any price.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by leosanchez »

turpentine wrote: post #156
Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #5

This is the PCPartPicker chart that I monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/#ram.ddr5.5600.... - $900 for 2x32GB, used to be $200 a year ago.

It shows 3.5" spinning rust are climbing this year too.

We are cooked tbh.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by theandrewbailey »

castlecrasher2 wrote: post #170
theandrewbailey wrote: post #163

I work in the refurb department of an e-waste recycling company. I've been collecting some DDR5-based systems for months, but with the prices, they're probably more than what most people are looking to spend on a technically second-hand computer (even if they are like new and still under warranty). I've priced them at about what the CPU + RAM + SSD would sell for separately, and I'm not willing to go much lower than…

>they're probably more than what most people are looking to spend on a technically second-hand computer (even if they are like new and still under warranty) Some people need to buy at these inflated prices anyway, and are ultimately willing to spend. Maybe it differs in your area but there's no risk in listing these on Facebook Marketplace or similar platforms and see the interest.

I've had them listed on FB Marketplace for months. In that time, I've sold four (3 to one guy, one to myself), and still have 20-ish more.

i5-13500E, 32GB DDR5, 512 GB NVMe, scratched and dinged a bit for $500 is practically a steal! Hardly anyone's biting or clicking, I don't get it...

New open box models (not scratched and dinged), if anyone's interested: https://www.ebay.com/itm/188355326179

Edit: they're intended to be retail POS PCs, like cash registers. (The motherboard literally has a header for a cash drawer!) So unless you're a particular kind of retailer, you're not asking your distributor for them. If distributors aren't looking for them, our B2B buyers aren't buying them. If they were Elite/Prodesks, Optiplexes, or Thinkcenters, they'd probably be gone by now.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by layer8 »

nemomarx wrote: post #24
thijson wrote: post #14

Price should send a signal to manufacturers to build more capacity. I wonder if they will though, it takes quite a bit of time, and it's not certain that the demand will continue to exist once built.

So far haven't we seen the opposite? Consumer focused ram production shutting down to make more volume for server dimms or etc?

What do you mean? RAM manufacturers shifting their capacities to server RAM and HBM is exactly what’s happening.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by Aurornis »

gvalkov wrote: post #99

The squeeze is real even at the SME level. We recently wanted to add another TB of memory to several servers (we do EDA chip design, which eats a lot of memory). Quotes came back to about €200k for 48 x 96GB DDR5-5600 RDIMMs. Mind you, this is for refurbished memory with 1 year warranty. I'm still figuring out if this is FU-pricing or just how things are going to be from now on. Spec-ing and buying servers has become…

> €200k for 48 x 96GB DDR5-5600 RDIMMs

That's about 50% higher than you'd pay for retail, small quantity, off the shelf alternatives in the US.

Many vendors have limited allocation so they're sending out extremely high quotes to see who will take it. They know everyone is seeing news about high RAM prices and getting new vendors approved can be hard, so they raise prices and see who takes it.

I would recommend getting quotes from multiple vendors. Don't be afraid to push back. They might come back immediately with a lower price in this market. Also check the retail suppliers you can access in your country.

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Post by Danox »

Take memory in house Apple (the talent is already there) its time again to kick another hardware supplier out and move on ala Intel, Nvidia, AMD, IBM, and Qualcomm outgoing in 2027-2028 if you want to continue to built devices and actually sell something to the public.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Post by himata4113 »

All started by openai wafer capacity commitments that aren't being met anymore... The ECC ram systems I've bought are now worth more than the original purchase price of the entire system and I've been debating on just selling them since they're now worth nearly double their value which would outperform any stock trades I've ever made any given year lol.
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