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The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by elliotbnvl »

skydhash wrote: post #134
elliotbnvl wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Go off and run a comparison of Qwen 3.6 27B and GLM 5.1 GGUF ( https://huggingface.co/ubergarm/GLM-5.1-GGUF ) at IQ2_KL 261.988 GiB (2.985 BPW) and let me know if you learn anything. Or maybe just compare Hermes vs OpenClaw for long-horizon personal agentic tasks. Which one performs better in offline inference personal finance analysis tasks? Or read up on how the `/code-review` workflow works in Opus 4.8 and give me…

> Go off and run a comparison of Qwen 3.6 27B and GLM 5.1 GGUF You may as well ask to run a comparison between gnu libc 2.42 and musl 1.2.5. > Hermes vs OpenClaw for long-horizon personal agentic tasks. Which one performs better in offline inference personal finance analysis tasks What are those tasks? This and the paragraph just after seems very much like a XY problem where all the energy is focusing on resolving th…

> You may as well ask to run a comparison between gnu libc 2.42 and musl 1.2.5.

Telling me you wouldn't learn anything from this?

> What are those tasks? This and the paragraph just after seems very much like a XY problem where all the energy is focusing on resolving the Y, not the X. It's like discussing how we can reach the moon using cannons.

Or like how we can get from A to B without horses.

It's a different world, one worth learning about. If these tasks don't at least arouse your interest, nothing I can say will help you.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by yawnxyz »

> Generically, it's about a unit time of life and how it is spent meaningfully

technology has generally flooded us with more speed, more choice, more entertainment - even the introduction of bicycles caused a similar outrage response, that we're moving too fast and should be slowing down to take in the world around us

the paradox is that choice is both great and awful for us

the one skill to hone / develop in the last couple of decades (way before AI) is the ability to focus, filter, discard, and choose a direction to move in (whether its hobbies, career, apps to build, social media to consume, etc etc etc)

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by Capricorn2481 »

hparadiz wrote: post #136
QuantumNomad_ wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My theory is that some folks have the premium tools and some don't and the ones that don't are sort of in this weird limbo where they are sort of stubbornly annoyed at the idea of having to pay for these things so they lash out. At my last job the employer paid for OpenAI access for all of us. Baby sitting an LLM is not my idea of meaningful use of time. And reviewing code that someone else had an LLM spew out even…

So tldr you don't have it now and have no frame of reference.

This is really low effort man. You can do better than "You're not paying enough to be as good as me" followed by "oh...well you haven't paid this month."

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by ryanisnan »

I have a different take. I empathize with the author, but my experience is quite different. I have a couple of side projects going, not dozens, like the author mentioned, but my approach with each is heavily focused around verification and testing. The AI is doing all of the development, but I maintain a strict set of documentation defining what properties I want the product to achieve. Everything cyclically is evaluated vs. my view of the world.

Unlike OP, I want to maintain these couple of projects. I am maintaining these projects. They are getting better daily, and my confidence in them is increasing, not decreasing.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by csomar »

iainctduncan wrote: post #63

I wonder how many of the responses here bifurcate by age. The post resonates with me, but I am now in my early fifties. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I would have happily chased rabbits down all those holes, but now that time seems so brutally finite, I feel that anything encouring me to spend time on stuff other than what really matters is a strong negative. (Where "what matters" includes work, family, friends, an…

In my experience meeting people in real life, age wasn't the factor but programming experience. More seasoned developers tend to push back on letting LLMs run the full show. Less experienced ones are more open to it. Those with no experience at all, they are all in.

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Post by paulryanrogers »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #158
Aurornis wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you write the code you learn from writing the code. When you have an LLM produce something and then delete, you didn’t learn much.

you didn’t learn much. And that's entirely your fault, not the LLM's.

'Entirely' is unfair. I do learn from working with AIs. Yet in the production pipeline their output can be so entangled (especially for non-text) that it's difficult to decompose and adjust without great effort.

Just today I was toying with AI to make some bumper music. It came up with some great phrases and fragments. But its 'song' output is a hilarious mess, and feels like I'd be better off starting from scratch and taking only the bits that work.

Then there's the ethical question of where those clever lyrics even came from. Perhaps just lifted from niche works I never heard before.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by selectedambient »

i feel like regardless what you're doing, consistency is key, aside from actually learning right? you mentioned people running three sessions at once on projects they have no hope of maintaining. very fair point, it's just gambling at that point. however, working on the same project or few projects, you DO hope to maintain (even with ai) for 8 months to a year straight is an entirely different experience than trying to powerhouse anything and everything just to have it? or something, i'm not really sure what the point in this would be. it isn't applicable on a resume or impressive to anyone with any real technical experience. at least if you're staying consistent you're learning something about the process, how to improve it, everything it does, etc. i've seen it time and time again, previously nontechnical or barely technical people "getting into coding" (i.e. using ai), creating something that would've taken time 10 years ago and marveling at it like they've done something. meanwhile, without thinking.. "if i had no prior experience and was able to quickly throw something together with AI, how valuable is the thing i threw together really?" to be clear i'm not saying you're doing this, but this is certainly what a LOT of the people you described are doing. this isn't even delving into the bugs and security flaws their programs are most likely full of. never mind they're learning practically nothing. anyway, i generally agree with your sentiment.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by danielbln »

bsiverly wrote: post #49
linsomniac wrote: post #36

I've been having the opposite experience; I've been GAINING focus through AI use. In my day, when there's something that is distracting me from moving my objectives forward, I'm asking "Can AI help me automate this?" The answer is surprisingly often "yes". I call these "rough edges" and have been doing a lot of work over the last few weeks to "file the rough edges down".

Same. I focus on the part that matters. As someone with ADHD I feel like AI is a salve for my mind. I used to listen to intense EDM while working. Now I sit in silence and talk to my agents. I maintain inbox zero. I absorb and comment across all relevant projects, even outside my team. I literally feel like I have a support team for the first time.

This is me. I found AI to be an incredible provider of structure, focus and productivity, its an externalized executive function provider. No longer do I forget what last week's meetings were about, no longer am I paralyzed by seemingly I surmountable tasks it all just flows, and I get to rubber duck against an endlessly patient system. I love it, and I'm somewhat bewildered by some of the takes in this thread. Different strokes for different folks, I suppose.

Re: The solution might be cancelling my AI subscription

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Post by throwaway98797 »

ALittleLight wrote: post #118
iainctduncan wrote: post #63

I wonder how many of the responses here bifurcate by age. The post resonates with me, but I am now in my early fifties. When I was in my 20's and 30's, I would have happily chased rabbits down all those holes, but now that time seems so brutally finite, I feel that anything encouring me to spend time on stuff other than what really matters is a strong negative. (Where "what matters" includes work, family, friends, an…

I don't understand the "deathbed" perspective. Are you going to wish you made more hackernews comments on your deathbed? Probably not. Does this mean you should stop using hackernews? If you optimized for minimizing deathbed regret perhaps you'd regret that on your deathbed! If I have cogent thoughts on my deathbed I expect they'll be along the lines of "I wish I wasn't dying" and not regretting the many ways I enjoy…

yea find this so unproductive

as we grow we change

that is life

lots of things i cared deeply about 10 years ago that i don’t even remember now

i find self loathing a previous version of yourself to be a by product of religious thinking

yes the original sin is that you were born but for now you can enjoy your life do so

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