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What Is a Dickover?

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Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by crote »

rererereferred wrote: post #168
michaelt wrote: post #19

I have a theory that about 97% of developers and managers completed the cookie consent (or whatever) on their own product 5 years ago and hence never see it again, and they have no idea how bad the experience for new customers actually is. So the developers and bosses all think they're doing a great job and they've got a carefully curated homepage, even though the regular users get a cloudflare captcha, then a cookie…

We use a third party cookie consent service. It shows different things depending on your location (and allows disabling different types of cookies depending on your local laws). Lawyers mandate it. It's easier than having to figure out the laws everywhere on our own. To me it shows a banner that stays out of the way. But I couldn't tell you for sure it doesn't cover the whole page to other people.

Have you considered just not violating anyone's privacy?

Cookie banners aren't a force of nature. They are required solely because you want to track people. Not tracking people? No need for a cookie banner!

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by DonHopkins »

freetime2 wrote: post #125
DonHopkins wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was afraid it would be a new kind of henway.

I actually had a similar thought - something along the lines of this gag from Spies Like Us https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35quNI5ed_k

At least you didn't get misgendered like Zack Mama (aka Monica).

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tH0DWrD0_hE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlLxZr5g5is

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by crote »

Freak_NL wrote: post #131
CobrastanJorji wrote: post #101

I endorse this name because, once it's the standard name for this technique, people will have to use it in meetings when seriously proposing them, which makes it harder to seriously propose. "And this is our design for the Dickover." "Guys, I'm not sure we should Dickover the customers." "You know, when you say it that way...." Epilogue: six months later, the site is dead because they converted nobody to their newsle…

Who are those people? Those perpetually amused folk who feel not a bit of rage when a dickover is slapped in their face, and for whom entering their e-mail address in the dickover is actually a thing they would seriously consider?

Seriously. These days if there isn't a huge "close" button, I'll just press "Back" and find a different website.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by ragebol »

apple4ever wrote: post #114
ragebol wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This whole cookie dickover concept is malicious compliance. The goal was: no tracking but ask consent if you must ("who would do this, that would be super annoying"). Except every website decided they'd rather annoy everyone.

A properly informed person would've understood that's what they'd do. They'd also probably realize cookies are not a big deal.

Clicking a button could also not be a big deal, but yet here we are.

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Post by MarkSweep »

crote wrote: post #173
Freak_NL wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are those people? Those perpetually amused folk who feel not a bit of rage when a dickover is slapped in their face, and for whom entering their e-mail address in the dickover is actually a thing they would seriously consider?

Seriously. These days if there isn't a huge "close" button, I'll just press "Back" and find a different website.

And a lot of the time pressing back will take you to some other article on the website instead of where you came from. Because the site used history.pushState in JavaScript to manipulate your history.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by nosioptar »

crote wrote: post #173
Freak_NL wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who are those people? Those perpetually amused folk who feel not a bit of rage when a dickover is slapped in their face, and for whom entering their e-mail address in the dickover is actually a thing they would seriously consider?

Seriously. These days if there isn't a huge "close" button, I'll just press "Back" and find a different website.

Unless I have no choice, I just close the tab when a dickover asks for my PII.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by nosioptar »

lostlogin wrote: post #56
andai wrote: post #45

I explicitly disable these on Substack but it adds them to my posts anyway. I'm not sure if that's a bug or the thing working as intended, but it was enough to make me stop using it. I don't want to do that to my readers.

Substack’s dubious practices aren’t as bad as their dubious politics. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-s...

At this point, one has to assume anyone still using substack has no problem with Nazis.

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by abrowne »

RyanOD wrote: post #91
abrowne wrote: post #28

Any site I visit regularly gets a user stylesheet via Stylus that I use to hide anything like this.

Thanks for the tip! I've never heard of Stylus, but am checking it out.

I can't imagine browsing the web without user stylesheets. (I guess I can, but I don't want to.)

Re: What Is a Dickover?

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Post by kcplate »

SoftTalker wrote: post #69
kcplate wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh we care, but when it comes to cookie dickovers, we care more about making the corporate lawyers happy. I’ll admit that I definitely like collecting my paycheck much more than I worry about customer annoyance at acknowledging a cookie policy. Some hills ain't worth dying on.

Or your company could respect its users and only use cookies for essential site functions. Then you don't need a dickover.

We wouldn't need a dickover at all if governments didn’t regulate it either.
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