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Motorola phones have started hijacking the Amazon app to insert affiliate codes

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Why would Amazon pay out on scam affiliate links? That’s the thing I don’t really understand from the honey scam.

As long as real customers are buying stuff, what incentive does Amazon have to question the source?

If they're paying out on purchases that otherwise would have been organic, they're losing money.

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Why would Amazon pay out on scam affiliate links? That’s the thing I don’t really understand from the honey scam.

As long as real customers are buying stuff, what incentive does Amazon have to question the source?

Because they are forking over some of their revenue to affiliates. If there is no affiliate, Amazon keeps that money for itself. Paying the affiliate only makes sense if it's driving purchases that wouldn't have happened otherwise.

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> Currently sitting on a Pixel 10 that will not let me have root. Stop buying phones from Verizon?

Not a Verizon phone.

That's surprising. Is this after you've paid it off? I thought only Verizon did this after the phone is paid off.

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Not sure what timescale you're referring to when you're talking about "how bad the market got" and "today", but back around 2012 I got my first and last Samsung smartphone, must have been a Galaxy 3 or something, that had all of those problematic things too. It seems like this starting to happen as soon as apps were installable on phones, even iPhones came (and still comes) with a ton of apps you cannot remove regard…

I can't remember if it was Samsung or something, but one of the providers shipped Android tablets with a custom-but-default keyboard which sent ALL your keystrokes back to the provider. That was a big nail in the Android coffin for me.

Remember the days of Facebook being preinstalled on Android devices with root permissions and being non removable?

You couldn't even revoke permission to access the camera and Mic. It had permission to do literally anything, and you couldn't change it or remove it.

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The paranoia is completely warranted, but there is a solution. Just root your Android phone and put a custom ROM like LineageOS etc If you want a stretch goal try and de-Google yourself, I have tried but failed twice now.

My biggest obstacle to de-Googling is the GBoard keyboard of all things. There's really no good open source alternative that even comes close.

Evidently some disagree, but I'm on your side. Biggest reason I didn't immediately think of "But what would I use for a keyboard" is my Q25 has on built-in.

UnifiedPush, F-Droid, a GMaps webview (arguably cheating, but I'm not RMS), NewPipe or Invidious are all good-enough alternatives, but I remember struggling to find a keyboard that felt right when I was using a Pixel 2 for a fortnight.

I think I went with the oldest Fleksy or Minuum APK I could find (from a reputable source), as they were fine without GApps.

Though I'd also like to call out the fact that AOSP has talkback, the accessibility service built-in, but there's no AOSP TTS engine to use it with. This is especially noticable when trying to use any spoken directions in OSMAnd, as it requires a TTS engine to use that function.

The only reason it's not the dumbest thing about Google's stewardship of AOSP is that I'm not sight impaired - as it stands, the multi-trillion-dollar corporation ripping out the built-in SIP client in their phone OS takes that prize

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You can delete almost all apps on iOS except the obviously core apps that are necessary for it to function.

You can now. You couldn't do this in the early versions of iOS.

On early versions of Android, you had to give an application every permission it wanted, or you couldn't install it at all.

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You can delete almost all apps on iOS except the obviously core apps that are necessary for it to function.

You can now. You couldn't do this in the early versions of iOS.

You can. I’ve removed Apple Music and Apple Maps (seriously, who uses that?) but apple makes extra sure most things are more annoying to use without maps. Calendar app with an address? Default to opening in Apple Maps which is missing so error message (twice). Find my? Also open in apple maps with missing app error message. Even with Google Maps set as default systemwide.

Re: Motorola phones have started hijacking the Amazon app to insert affiliate codes

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Not sure what timescale you're referring to when you're talking about "how bad the market got" and "today", but back around 2012 I got my first and last Samsung smartphone, must have been a Galaxy 3 or something, that had all of those problematic things too. It seems like this starting to happen as soon as apps were installable on phones, even iPhones came (and still comes) with a ton of apps you cannot remove regard…

And operators preloading questionable stuff is a much older practice than post-iPhone smartphones. If you had a feature phone in the 2000's, the operator would have customised it one way or another. The iPhone was revolutionary in how much Apple forced the network operators to relinquish control.

I can remember Verizon being sued for forcing device makers to disable the ability to transfer files from feature phones to computers over Bluetooth, because they charged a per file fee to transfer files with their own proprietary software.

Re: Motorola phones have started hijacking the Amazon app to insert affiliate codes

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I don't see how the former has anything to do with the latter.

You don't see how it doesn't make sense for Graphene to reject a company because it doesn't handle security according to their standards, but be OK with a company that is actively malicious?

What matters is whether or not a particular device meets the GOS hardware requirements, anything else is secondary. It's not that complicated
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