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Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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I'm quite sure no freediving instructor would ever teach you this particular method, because it is a surefire way to die underwater on your first attempt. Free diving breathing techniques usually revolve around lowering your heart rate, not lowering CO2. Wim Hof trainers will also tell you to never to use this method when near water. As for the specifics that may have prevented you from doing what you wanted: If you…

> I'm quite sure no freediving instructor would ever teach you this particular method, because it is a surefire way to die underwater on your first attempt Definitely no instructor involved, just a dumb 20 year-old living in Puerto Rico. It admittedly was dangerous, but I am living evidence that it was far from a "surefire" way to die. It was one of a hundred ways in which I put my life at risk during my 20s. ¯\_(ツ)_…

90 seconds of breath hold is still way too little to see oxygen drops in a finger pulse oxi. Also explains why you didn't die free-diving. Even with no training you can go much longer than that before risking a blackout (at least under normal circumstances). In fact training free-diving is all about CO2 tolerance and relaxation, so you won't even be able to store more O2. When I was reaching the 80s, I was doing 3+ minute breath holds. The first ~2 minutes my oxi stayed at full O2 sat with basically no change. In principle you should be able to induce a blackout yourself using this method without feeling an urgent need to breathe - if you do the prep stage hard enough. Just make sure you only do this when lying down in a safe position.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Just read how this works and tried it. A bit tricky at first but actually quite easy once you get the hang of it. And it's kind of a fun exercise. Now I'm wondering if I should get a Didgeridoo too.

Yes. Someone who masters circular breathing in a weekend should start playing a wind instrument.

What wind instrument do you play and how long did it take you to learn this technique?

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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For BiPAP i could buy that. For surgery, it turns out there are higher rates of it being the improper treatment and partial or full failure, and you still might need CPAP anyways. And that’s on top of the fairly standard and obvious preference for non invasive treatments in general. I will say a fairly non invasive surgery that is much easier to consider is fixing a deviated septum; it probably won’t fix your apnea,…

I share your concerns about surgery. The way I understand it, the difficulty lies in choosing the right surgery (or surgeries) for the right patient. The supposed gold-standard diagnostic approach is a drug induced sleep endoscopy, where an ENT looks at your airway while you sleep. The problem is that being sedated is not the same as being asleep. It's possible to do this "right", but that is much more time consuming…

IME septoplasty was bad for like a week (constantly nosebleeding more than I’ve ever done in my life) but in the grand scheme of surgery its a fairly low pain, fast recovery, at least compared to other ones I’ve done like ACL construction.

The ones they generally don’t recommend in the US are those that involve airway or jaw modification; they have fairly low success rates, you’ll have trouble eating for months, and they can come with a whole host of nasty side effects like permanent uncontrolled nasal drip. Plus, in general US medicine tries not to recommend major surgeries if alternatives are good enough or better, not only to reduce cost and recovery, complications etc, but also because general anesthesia itself is risky.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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I couldn't find a CPAP mask that worked for me, even after 6 months of trying across 4 different masks. Then I read studies showing oropharyngeal exercises can help treat sleep apnea. Originally I used https://snoregym.com/ for that, but then I switched to simply chewing gum once a day (being careful to chew on both sides of my mouth roughly equally), and also chewing my food a bit longer. It totally cured my sleep a…

How come none of the masks worked?

I was fully prepared to have to go through the entire gamut of masks to find one that worked, because I snore so surely I would need a mask that covers my mouth at least, right?

But even while sleeping, my brain is keeping my mouth shut so the simplest, nose-only mask works perfectly, with very little leakage.

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A friend of mine started "blowing air into water with an straw" (making bubbles) very seriously. I was very skeptical to say the least; but after a couple of months the effects have been very eye opening. Not only it has helped sleep apnea and snoring but also helped with reducing their weight. They had an online group and most participants reported the same. The wight loss was reverted when they stopped for some per…

I don’t mean to be rude, but what kind of personal reasons might stop a person from breathing into a straw at night

Depression

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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A friend of mine started "blowing air into water with an straw" (making bubbles) very seriously. I was very skeptical to say the least; but after a couple of months the effects have been very eye opening. Not only it has helped sleep apnea and snoring but also helped with reducing their weight. They had an online group and most participants reported the same. The wight loss was reverted when they stopped for some per…

Would you happen to have more information about this online group? Would love to join it!

Sadly the (non-english) whatsapp group is no longer available. There wasn't really more to it; you had to practice circular breathing daily and post an update. But the teacher wanted to create membership schemes and make extra money, so people left.

Re: Didgeridoo playing as alternative treatment for obstructive sleep apnoea (2006)

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Unfortunately, digeridoo playing is just as disruptive to partner's sleep as snoring is. Perhaps they should try bagpipes?

Use a box didgeridoo instead, it's much quiter than a full-size one.

Just bought one, will be intrigued to see if it has any effect on my snoring.
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