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Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by sterlind »

plugger wrote: post #118
bigiain wrote: post #76

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No pricing on that sSDR yet, but their single channel M.2 SDR is $360. My guess it the dual channel one would be close to $500. Nice, but above my impulse buy threshold... (It won't surprise me if a Flipper One with that sSDR in it will cost close to $1,500.)

This is where I land as well, except I'd go higher. Ukraine has caused the pricing of any FPGA equipped SDR to skyrocket. Plus incredibly high sample rates that the sSDR supports would likely result in a lot of drops in sampling due to sustained throughput issues of the device itself. You'd be surprised how much dropping occurs on even fairly modern/grunty machines. I used to record X band weather satellite baseband…

what's behind the price increase? low-end FPGAs still seem dirt cheap. is the pricey bit the actual radio module that they drive?

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by sterlind »

pocksuppet wrote: post #163
koziserek wrote: post #134

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For what reason? When I buy a hammer in hardware store, can smash all the windows of parked cars nearby..

They don't care what the product can technically do, they care what people think it does, if it can actually do that. The Flipper Zero is openly advertised as a hacking device. Governments should not be understood as if(!follows_law) punish(); it's rather if(seems_bad) {if(follows_law) {change_law(); punish();} else punish();} else if(rand() < 0.1) punish();

the `rand() < 0.1` bit rings lamentably true.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by Dylan16807 »

NoSalt wrote: post #170
Dylan16807 wrote: post #122

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Considering this is 6.1 inches wide and 1.6 inches thick, I think I'd be happier with a GPD that's 6.8 inches wide and 1.0 inches thick. And I can put the screen into grayscale mode if I want?

When you say "GPD", are you speaking about these? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPD_Win

Moreso the entire company and its variety of models, but yes. Especially when running Ubuntu. I think they have two models of the size I mentioned right now, one around $600 and one more expensive.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by fsflover »

rasz wrote: post #161
fsflover wrote: post #153

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There are not so many running mainline Linux with all free drivers.

Chip intended for this thing is also heavily blobbed. Even the creator lists "Push vendors to open up their existing closed-source code and ditch binary blobs entirely." as one of the goals as if small niche gadget had any chance of erven nudging the needle. We are talking Rockchip, company mired in numerous GPL violations with latest nuking their github repository early this year.

And yet a smartphone running an FSF-endorsed distro does exist, so it's possible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Librem_5. Not free of firmware blobs though.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by kimos »

jgrahamc wrote: post #6

I have a Flipper Zero and I've used it... occasionally. Like that one time controlling the Taylor Swift Eras tour wristbands: https://blog.jgc.org/2024/05/controlling-taylor-swift-eras-t... but it's mostly sat around being an odd device. I duplicated a couple of RFID things, used the IR for some stuff, and once in a while used the radio receiver, but mostly it looks pretty. I'm not sure what I'd do with a Flipper One…

I have most often used it to be every amiibo that exists.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by wolrah »

topspin wrote: post #135
wolrah wrote: post #108

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Likewise, I've flown more in the last year than in the decade prior and every single leg my Flipper has been in the side pocket of my backpack. Never once has it received even a second look from the TSA, including also DEF CON.

It looks like a handheld gaming thing; not very interesting to people that see many similar devices every day.

I agree, but it's also a rather distinct device so if it were being intentionally confiscated by TSA as some of the upstream posters claim it'd be really easy for them to identify. If it were policy in any way, even the most basic object recognition systems attached to even a simple x-ray scanner could identify one with ease.

That's of course not to say some rogue agents haven't confiscated a few Flippers, especially after seeing hyperbolic media reports about them being magical evil hacker devices, but I have high confidence that there's no official policy to do so.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by ramgine »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #156
tonyarkles wrote: post #10

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I had similar feelings but the comments below about adding an SDR to it with an M.2 slot got me looking a little closer. This has an 8-core Rockchip A72/A53 processor and 8GB of RAM. This is not an incremental improvement over the Flipper Zero, this is something else entirely. Hmmmmm...

I'd love to have a "shit hit the fan" style computer (like a cyberdeck), but also be able to do radio communications stuff as a hobby. But there's no ready-made cyberdeck as far as I know; I feel like Flipper has enough mindshare to be able to lead a project like this. (Clockwork comes close: https://www.clockworkpi.com/ , as do these tiny handheld laptops with network and serial ports like GPD's Micro PC)

As someone else mentioned in another thread, this could be what you’re looking for. Unfortunately it’s above my impulse budget https://shop.mntre.com/products/mnt-pocket-reform

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by elil17 »

embedding-shape wrote: post #31
perryprog wrote: post #24

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The first image which annotates the controls has a "Push-to-Talk button" which is used for "Voice communication" and "AI assistant activation".

PTT sounds great, tiny walkie-talkies with user-provided antennas, and seems rugged too, I'd probably end up buying two at least :)

PTT isn't the issue. It's their intended use case.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by embedding-shape »

elil17 wrote: post #178
embedding-shape wrote: post #31

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PTT sounds great, tiny walkie-talkies with user-provided antennas, and seems rugged too, I'd probably end up buying two at least :)

PTT isn't the issue. It's their intended use case.

It's a Flipper, the intended use case is "whatever you can think and do", it's not there for a single use case, none of the hardware features are.

Re: Flipper One Tech Specs

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Post by PunchyHamster »

elevation wrote: post #158
PunchyHamster wrote: post #86

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you are not getting ARP of hosts that are sleeping in WoL waiting to be ran

Correct. But it's easier for me to power on a device and let it DHCP request than it is to have to type the mac address in on a d-pad keyboard.

Good luck guessing which's which in busy network, or displaying it on tiny screen.
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