Amen! The only things that made the early web bad by comparison were popup ads and the lack of tabbed browsing. Popup windows that didn't rely on user interaction were always a bad idea and should never have existed. But besides that, yeah, I miss those days. I miss the days when I was a kid and I could stick some HTML on a server and people would actually find it. No SEO, ads, or shameless self promotion required.
> popup ads Have you open any US news website in 5 years? Usually there are 2 or 3 layers of popups: subscribe!, cookies box, and news video stream playing on top of everything.
Modals rendered in the DOM are less bad than full blown windows that clutter up your taskbar and automatically play audio.
Didn't expect to see something I made on HN while my wife is trying to find something to watch on TV. So about the site in case anyone is interested. I made it with a friend who was studying multimedia. He helped with the data and I did the coding. Took about a week or two. The site was originally Flash (remember that). But I ported it to HTML5 a few years ago. It still has those Flash vibes I think. Posted the code…
I am very sad to see NSBM and bands with problematic members being promoted here. We have so many problems with right-wing structures and people (mostly male band members) who think they can do whatever they want in this world. Giving them a platform and advertising them will show that metal communities are more exclusive than they are promoting. This is especially concerning given that the metal community seems to be very tolerant, but I think 'ignorant' is a more accurate description of accepting murderers, racist and molester. Yes, a significant proportion of the metal history is problematic persons and bands, but I cannot find any warnings, FAQs or contextualisations. It's a shame. As a result, the metal community will remain old, white and male.
Great map. There might be some categories missing, couldn't find any Katatonia, Agalloch, Alcest nor Tiamat. Alcest and some Deftones are considered blackgaze and Agalloch, Wolves in the Throne Room fall more into grey metal.
Wolves in the Throne Room are RABM not grey. Their are clearly political and clearly anti NSBM and anarchists. And very clear that the musical genre is black metal.
I liked the anti-establishment, Anarchist/socialist vibes of the Hardcore punk rock island. Don't like all of the macho posing and shrieking (neither in punk and especially not in the more "black" part); and double dislike the crass commercialization of so much of it.
Punk is for politics and Metal is for Partying.
Saying you are privileged without actually saying it. Everything is political, even partying.
I liked the anti-establishment, Anarchist/socialist vibes of the Hardcore punk rock island. Don't like all of the macho posing and shrieking (neither in punk and especially not in the more "black" part); and double dislike the crass commercialization of so much of it.
Anarchist/socialist are such funny words to put a slash between. They seem like such polar opposite political structures
It depends.
In their original political and philosophical roots, socialists pursued the same goals as anarchists: a political order without top-down hierarchical structures, but one that is self-managed from within. Workers for workers. No hierarchies constructed by things like patriarchy or capitalism.
Communism, which is supposed to lead to socialism (?), can be diametrically opposed to anarchism, as it incorporates the idea of imperialism, a doctrine of order and authoritarianism.
People who are called socialists today, such as Bernie Sanders, are not socialists in that sense, but rather liberals in the guise of socialism who subordinate themselves to the order of capitalism and thus have very, very little to do with anarchism.
But also little to do with socialism. For reformist approaches pursue the treatment of symptoms rather than systemic changes that tackle the actual problems at their root. Anarchist structures, on the other hand, are also called “root movements,” as they aim to address fundamental changes—even if only on a small scale—at their very roots.
Didn't expect to see something I made on HN while my wife is trying to find something to watch on TV. So about the site in case anyone is interested. I made it with a friend who was studying multimedia. He helped with the data and I did the coding. Took about a week or two. The site was originally Flash (remember that). But I ported it to HTML5 a few years ago. It still has those Flash vibes I think. Posted the code…
Younger people would never understand how amazing the internet was back in the 90s. Particularly before ads and SEO became an industry. Also Flash, most people don't realize what we lost with Flash. The amount of non-professional multimedia content available was so great. It was a cooking ground for people to experiment with animation ideas. Very low hanging fruit. HTML5/Canvas/CSS just don't have that accessibility.…
Creativity is still there, it's just on other platforms and / or through other media besides the web - tiktok, youtube, roblox, podcasts, fanfiction, art sites, etc.
It's still there, but you have to look AND be interested in it. Many of us were only interested in e.g. newgrounds and ignored deviantart. Many of a younger generation are only interested in e.g. tiktok and ignore tumblr.
Overall, I think it's fine, and / or the kids are alright.
One of the "I'm trying to find it" ... Fantasy metal. I was wondering where I'd find Blind Guardian ( https://youtu.be/n63UbX5kzAc https://youtu.be/uOMfsywQgY0?si=7N9hcXJcqbZtJ1jC&t=953 ) or the newly emerging dwarfish metal genre with Windrose (best known for their rendition of Diggy Diggy Hole https://youtu.be/34CZjsEI1yU but they've got other music that celebrates fantasy dwarf culture - https://lnk.to/WindRose-Tr…
Blind Guardian is under "Melodic Power Metal", which is exactly where I'd expect to find it, alongside Helloween, Rhapsody, Dragonforce and Angra.
This is absolutely incredible. I've gotten much more into metal this year; unfortunately this only further enables that! One disagreement: punk rock island should be a lot bigger in my opinion! Garage and heavy metal definitely inspired the OG British punk rock scene, but they also inspired NY Dolls and Ramones (who formed specifically in response to the rising popularity of heavy metal, if memory serves), two massiv…
I interpret each of those outlying islands as representing an external influence to metal that is not elaborated further. Of course that island needs to be bigger, but so should the hard rock and psychedelic rock islands -- and they should extend into the 70s and 80s as well. But this is a map of metal , not a map of music. If one were to draw a map of punk, metal would also just feature as a few small islands I gath…
Fair enough! I guess you'd just recreate the universe if each genre were expanded upon further.
In case you haven't seen it, Metal Evolution is a great documentary by a sociologist tracing the different ages of Metal.
Some have mentioned Sabbath, mc5, Stooges etc as origins.
Sam Dunn (documentary producer) says Paganini has a big influence in the guitar solo, demonstrations of virtuosity by the players etc. interviews this crazy swedish guy can't remember his name.