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At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#171

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author wants them smashed. The point of the article is to attempt to normalize and provide justification for the behavior, so that more people feel OK doing it.

From TFA: > Reddit threads show near-universal support. If your barometer for actual support is Reddit sentiment, I've got news for you...

“This thing thats easy to measure agrees with me.”

Shows lack of critical thinking and rigor.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#173
post #106

Flock cameras and the surveillance state generally speaking make me feel like a slave.

What about registration plates? Do they make you feeling like a slave?

If you won't form an argument illustrating how X is like Y, then try to resist simply stating that they are alike. It creates a wasteful, distracting fork in the conversation. Rhetorical analogies are lazy and almost always very shaky.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#174

I've warmed to LLM-generated/assisted writing in general but this kind of stuff is just lazy and is basically "I got Claude to say something I agree with and then made it pretty".

A browser plugin that scores webpage content based on how likely it is to have been AI-generated would be quite useful.

Browser vendors can't build this.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#176

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I'm curious, what's the profit in muggings these days? Almost nobody I know still carries cash. The mugger could probably get a phone, but more and more are useless to anyone but the owner. Same with credit cards, easily canceled and fraud detection is better than ever so not very useful.

You can recycle the parts in an phone for prolly at least 20-100.

Plus apple watch, airpods, etc.

I’m think the average pedestrian carries more cash equivalents than at any time in history.

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it won't. (Source: got legislation for this, pretty good bead on who the stakeholders are). This is all Internet logic. It's fun to talk about destroying cameras as a vector for public policy, ergo, by the First Law of Message Boards, that must be a viable strategy. Reader, it is not. Nobody's going to blink at these costs, but residents who supported or were on the fence about the cameras are now negatively polar…

What if we just zip tie bags over them while working on legislation?

Just break the cameras. Nobody cares (I mean, local police will care, in that they will arrest you if they can, but that's about the extent of it.)

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

#179

not sure why people are bothering with destruction, just drive around and shut them down wirelessly. some newer models require a button to be pressed for them to start the AP, but still leaves them vulnerable to attacks with a long stick and doesn't draw any attention while hundreds of cameras suddenly stop working, making the city government think they're unreliable.

Pending clarification, I suspect "just" is doing a lot of work!

Re: At least 25 Flock cameras have been destroyed in five states since April 2025

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It's rational to oppose Flock cameras in particular, while admitting that secure publicly accountable camera use for police purposes may have a legitimate place. YouTuber Benn Jordan did a pretty decent break down of how Flock is not that.

https://youtu.be/Pp9MwZkHiMQ?si=9CwwNcxbqOjB4DXm

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