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I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by embedding-shape »

monokai_nl wrote: post #124
vipshek wrote: post #98

> This website has been temporarily rate limited Feels a bit ironic... though this website is hosted on Cloudflare Workers so using an American company anyway?

Well this is nice. Apparently I reached some limits (thanks all), and had to pay Cloudflare more. Fair I guess, although some warning would've been nice. Tried multiple payment options multiple times just now and Cloudflare botched every time without giving me an error message. Finally managed to get it through on the 10th time. Please be gentle now :/

That sucks... Bunny CDN served me and others great when it comes to a Cloudflare alternative, if you're looking for an alternative.

I understand the pragmatism with going with CF, but I'd lie if I didn't also say using CF as the front for your entire "European Digital Stack" kind of makes the blog-post feel less authentic compared to my initial impression, because of that.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by vrganj »

drstewart wrote: post #164
vrganj wrote: post #158

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I'm not sure what you're referring to: https://www.kielinstitut.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukrai...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq6jrvgqeejo Ukraine can never trust the EU again after this. There can always be another Orban. Trust is broken forever.

Look at the numbers.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by pjc50 »

drstewart wrote: post #147
pastage wrote: post #138

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The complete disinterest in international allies from the American public is troublesome. I recently was in a discussion about what kind of responsibility we can put on the residents of the US for this situation. A US lawyer answered "well the 25th amendment ties our hands, and we do a lot of protesting so no blame on us". The judgement on US citizens was pretty harsh. You guys have to work a lot harder to fix your i…

So true. Now, what level of blame can we put on the EU for not supporting Ukraine more over the past few years, with all the vetoes from Hungary?

I think the blame for Hungary falls on Hungary?

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by j45 »

AllanSavageDev wrote: post #162
cryo32 wrote: post #66

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Seeing and hearing the same. When our giant private equity owners are even pushing us down the on-prem route. I’m hearing it from “normal” people too which is actually quite weird. To the point of going back to paper for some stuff.

I spoke with some high level folks at a very profitable private company recently and inquired as to why they had DBAs on staff for what amounts to a pretty simple OLTP type system. Id naively assumed that someone of that scale would be using a cloud provider (RDS for AWS etc) thus negating the need for someone who really knows DB internals and upgrades and OS level stuff. The answer was that they simply didn't trust…

You are likely describing software like Proxmox which has quietly been able to do so much for a long time.

Open source, and works great when small, and at scale.

https://www.proxmox.com/en/products/proxmox-virtual-environm...

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=introduction+to...

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by embedding-shape »

chrisweekly wrote: post #114
Winblows11 wrote: post #102

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Cloudflare = NSA creation to get around HTTPS

citation?

Have to wait for the next Snowden before you get any citations.

NSA collaborator or not, the mere existence of something like Cloudflare, which also tries to nudge you into skipping internal http/tls and just use that at the front, makes it highly likely that NSA is already deep in their infrastructure, just like they've been in the past for literally any big technology company in the US.

But yeah, zero citations, zero evidence, just based on history and what the goal of the organization is, it's pretty clear what's going on already.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by AllanSavageDev »

embedding-shape wrote: post #151
TrackerFF wrote: post #49

For the past days I've been participating(albeit over Teams) in a conference relevant to my industry (intel), basically startups and established companies showcasing their products to a closed audience of EU gov. officials. One thing I noticed right away, is that all companies were asked "Can we fully host this from within EU or our country" from the various people in audience. Every single one. Many of the startups…

> Definitely a change, because it is not something I can recall being important just a couple of years ago. I work as a consultant and freelancer across a bunch of companies, some American but mostly European ones. Last ~8 months or so, the sentiment about "Hosting our data in EU or even our own country" has drastically changed, I don't think I've seen such a clear shift in public opinion so fast before. The amount o…

EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380:

Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain...

EU Fairness dictates they all need to get a slice of the pie so this will be interesting (and by that I mean absurdly hilarious).

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by sevenzero »

wolvoleo wrote: post #146
sevenzero wrote: post #33

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Most digital things in Europe are in fact much better. Lots of laws allow people to protect themselves from digital exploitation. I agree that there is a ton of bullshit as well though. Gotta dox myself with imprints for example, so I cant share my work with people without also doxing myself. Also as a hobbyist you pretty much need all the business documents as well, like a privacy policy even if its just a small pub…

I'd never heard of that imprint stuff but that's pretty Draconian yeah. If it will start being required for foreign sites I'll block all German IPs. I avoid doing any business in Germany these days. I tried to get a VPS from Hetzner but they demanded a copy of my ID and didn't accept that I blanked out my citizen number. Which is actually recommended by our national police for identify theft risk. I moved to Scaleway…

Yea that was my bad, its Germany specific. I sometimes forget Europe usually isnt as tight as Germany when it gets to these kinda things.

Re: I moved my digital stack to Europe

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Post by andruby »

throwaway2037 wrote: post #134
hununu wrote: post #106

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Being hosted in Canada is no longer the safety many assumed before. In reality it should not be an American company beholden to the current administration.

And that has never happened to any European company, right? (I'm looking at you ASML.) By your logic, does that mean that most European nations are "no longer the safety many assumed before"?

The example you mention is a tricky one, ASML is about as European as it is American. It is heavily subject to US export controls because its machines include US components, US software and US IP. They operate multiple R&D centers and factories in the US and employ a lot of US employees (~20%)
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