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Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by DangitBobby »

aksss wrote: post #153
aksss wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Ostensibly" is the mistake in your formula. Current events are replete with examples to the contrary. It's not equivocating to recognize that governments are organizations of humans, subject to the same limitations - the larger they get, the harder they are to manage well; talent is incredibly important to success in mission; leadership is incredibly important to integrity, ethics, and strategy; lower oversight and…

Which isn’t to say government is bad as an institution.. just to say that we regard it with an assumption of good faith at our collective peril - it’s track record counsels the opposite.

It would be comical hear this as if you think it contrasts with companies if I didn't know you believed it. The very "slime" that leads to the government doing these things accumulates at the behest of the entities you're defending.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by 1659447091 »

traderj0e wrote: post #167
1659447091 wrote: post #157

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My point being, Where is the complete taxonomy? The argument I have parsed from links, with the absents of context or words, is not about race, it's about if a person is Native to the Americas. Wait, no it's not because many Mexicans are natives but not that kind of native. So which native american? Hope you are seeing the argument that can be made if someone actual whats to spend the time and money arguing it. They…

Without a taxonomy, somehow like 100% of people would say that I'm white

Sure but how does that(the broader classification based on visual vibes) reconcile with the `One Drop Rule` the other poster included as a racal classification? There were people who 100% of the time would say someone was "white" but then they had a black ancestor and suddenly they are not white anymore -- yet if your ancestor is the US version of Native American and you vibe "white", you get shamed for claiming Native American "race". Which one do we go with?

There are statics somewhere that had some 20%+ of people who are looked at as "white" in the US actually have recent African ancestors as well. The Irish and Italians had to fight to be called "white" in the US because in the US being "white" meant being at the top of the class hierarchy. Which is all the race thing is, class hierarchy, and why no one can actually define a taxonomy for it because it's based on the arbitrary.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by lobsterthief »

streb-lo wrote: post #165
WillPostForFood wrote: post #142

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Possible you got tricked into using a private site that buys the first google sponsored google result, and talks like it is the official Colorado site but is just lead gen? https://i.imgur.com/d2fZlTc.png

How is that even legal?

Because the FTC has been defanged, and it was the main body preventing this sort of thing. Along with the CFPB for financial products (I don’t think insurance qualifies though.)

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by anonym29 »

parineum wrote: post #160
anonym29 wrote: post #133

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That would be nice in principle, yes, but in a CU world, that's asking the fox to vote to lock itself out of the hen house. In practice most of the foxes that promise to do so never actually will. What's your proposal to solve this?

Frankly, I think it's much less of an issue than it's made out to be. If money meant so much, Donald Trump wouldn't have beat Jeb Bush on the way to beating Hilary Clinton. To me, money in politics is the red herring to keep you from looking at the real election reform that needs to happen, some combination of open primaries (to remove the effect of primaries going to more extreme candidates rather than centrists) an…

You've got my support for switching from FPTP to something like RCV, and for open primaries!

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by traderj0e »

1659447091 wrote: post #172
traderj0e wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Without a taxonomy, somehow like 100% of people would say that I'm white

Sure but how does that(the broader classification based on visual vibes) reconcile with the `One Drop Rule` the other poster included as a racal classification? There were people who 100% of the time would say someone was "white" but then they had a black ancestor and suddenly they are not white anymore -- yet if your ancestor is the US version of Native American and you vibe "white", you get shamed for claiming Nati…

They currently go with whatever the person looks like. I'm not saying it's right, but it does exist. Before the crackdown on DEI, Gates Scholarship would've rejected me for being white, even if I had some non-white ancestor.

Re: US healthcare marketplaces shared citizenship and race data with ad tech giants

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Post by 1659447091 »

traderj0e wrote: post #175
1659447091 wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure but how does that(the broader classification based on visual vibes) reconcile with the `One Drop Rule` the other poster included as a racal classification? There were people who 100% of the time would say someone was "white" but then they had a black ancestor and suddenly they are not white anymore -- yet if your ancestor is the US version of Native American and you vibe "white", you get shamed for claiming Nati…

They currently go with whatever the person looks like. I'm not saying it's right, but it does exist. Before the crackdown on DEI, Gates Scholarship would've rejected me for being white, even if I had some non-white ancestor.

I get that. My comments are strictly within the context of the OP about what would happen if you just lie. If someone rejected you for claiming `asian`, for example, and you have an immigrant great-grandmother from , you would be able to challenge it.

I'm saying they can not prove one is lying because there is no way to be formally classified. I pointed out one of many low hanging fruit ways an argument can be made from the links the other posted included. Being a more creative type, and having money with time to spare, one could find a way to argue whatever race they wanted. Even people with stricter bounds for themself are likely to find a trail of DNA and/or lineage for many of the cherry-picked classes on those forms.(especially in North America)

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Post by jvanderbot »

mekdoonggi wrote: post #164
paulryanrogers wrote: post #136

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The dysfunction is intentional. Baby steps to rollback ACA. Every small inconvenience pushes voters closer to their side.

Republicans have the easiest playbook. 1. Break government 2. "See? Government never works!" 3. Profit 4. Repeat Parasites.

Well it's often slightly more ideological than that. Old school conservatives believed on principle that government should not be in this sort of business no matter how tempting it was. They had good, justified reasons for those beliefs, not just some vague evilness (not that one is forced to agree just because they have real justification).

Maybe it's always been the case, but it sure seems like it's just momentum and reflex at this point.

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