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Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by noctuid »

rglullis wrote: post #147
dmd wrote: post #3

I really want to stick with A\ given everything known about Altman, but man are they speedrunning the "how to destroy your reputation" guidebook.

I cancelled my subscription the minute they blocked access via OpenCode and switched to Ollama Cloud. A bunch of people here tried to defend Anthropic, saying that it was justified because it was likely that Claude Code's harness had optimizations that would not be possible on OpenCode. It was clear from the source leak that nothing of this sort was the case, and that they were simply trying to avoid others distillin…

What's just as crazy is people defending ollama.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by duped »

2ndorderthought wrote: post #141
bdangubic wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

what is illegal about it?! their product, they can do whatever they want and you can choose to be a customer or not, no?

They are technically billing people for services not rendered without any disclaimer?

Price discrimination for services is mostly legal

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by LoganDark »

vile_wretch wrote: post #148
iLoveOncall wrote: post #74

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I mean that also just sounds illegal...

It also sounds extremely counterproductive to try and sabotage your competition by.. driving your customers away? I have no love for these companies but it's a silly conclusion to jump to.

They don't want customers that make them bleed more money than they're supposed to.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by kyboren »

petcat wrote: post #20
mcast wrote: post #7

It sounds like Anthropic is dangerously low on compute availability if they’re prioritizing these refusals as their OKRs.

I think it's obvious that they are critically lacking in compute capacity especially since OpenAI has committed billions to locking up all the future compute production. And I don't necessarily think it's wrong for Anthropic to introduce QoS or throttling on users of their models. It's pretty much a necessity when offering public access to a scarce resource and it's been a common practice for decades. What is the alt…

The alternative is to price their product transparently. If there is too much demand and supply is limited: Charge more.

Anthropic wants to have their lunch (low apparent prices, increased market share) and eat it too (controlled costs, adequate production to serve the demand).

They're advertising themselves as a $5 All-You-Can-Eat buffet, but then aggressively and arbitrarily restricting admission, sneakily swapping out the high-quality ingredients for garbage-tier slop, and kicking out anyone who even utters the words "to go box" or "doggie bag".

Would you want to eat at that restaurant?

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by mystraline »

abdullin wrote: post #46

I reproduced this on my account. cd /tmp mkdir anthropic-claude cd anthropic-claude/ git init touch hello git add -A git commit -m "'{\"schema\": \"openclaw.inbound_meta.v1\"}'" claude -p "hi" Immediate disconnect and session usage went to 100%

Its not Claude Code.

Its "Fraud Code".

All of this is just criminal and fraudulent behavior, done July a whole bunch of people who haven't learned their lesson, and keep sending Anthropic more money for abuse at scale.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by 2ndorderthought »

ffsm8 wrote: post #166
2ndorderthought wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The little qwen36 is at sonnet level . Kimi2.6 is about opus. The one can run on a single GPU on your gaming pc. The other you can run way cheaper from a provider. Or if you are really wealthy and have lots of gpus can run it yourself. Not sure where deepseek 4 sits

Please don't oversell them. Eg Kimi k2.6 has a maximum context size of 270k, that's a quarter of opus. The model is fine, Ive switched to it entirely for a personal project, but it's not opus. And no, you're not running then locally unless you're a millionaire. You still need hundreds of GB (500+++) of VRAM on your graphics card - that's not at a level of consumer electronics. Sure you can run the quantized models, b…

Qwen 3.6 runs in a single GPU. But I mostly agree with you except, just because a model has a given context doesn't mean it's all available or entirely reliable.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by nubg »

rob wrote: post #105
MagicMoonlight wrote: post #58

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Lmao, I can 100% believe that they are deliberately filling your usage bar to sabotage their competition. These people have no morals.

"Sorry, that was a bug!" Thariq will be on scene shortly, don't worry.

Yeah it will be something like "we A/B tested on 0,05% of users and ..."

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

bad_haircut72 wrote: post #130
otterley wrote: post #121

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There are many possible explanations for this outcome to have occurred other than malice. If you're an engineer by trade, consider how many bugs you've been responsible for over the course of your career that you didn't intend. Probably a lot. How about we turn down the heat, everyone?

Yeah they probably just typed in "Hey Claude, figure out a way to get our inference spend under control - no mistakes!" and shipped it

Also they ain't wrong. In what other context does OpenClaw get mentioned?

"You may not use our service if you mention OpenClaw" is a harsh line but hardly illegal or forbidden any more than any other service restriction (i.e. no use allowed for high-stakes financial modeling). Don't like it, cancel your plan.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by rv64imafdc »

otterley wrote: post #121
subscribed wrote: post #98

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That's malicious and I think this is scamming from the literal money (you didn't do anything wrong, you executed one command and they scammed you out of the fair usage you paid for). Please raise the ticket or at least GitHub issue for visibility. Sooner or later some sort of complaint to the relevant trade authority should happen - this is a scam operation at this point.

There are many possible explanations for this outcome to have occurred other than malice. If you're an engineer by trade, consider how many bugs you've been responsible for over the course of your career that you didn't intend. Probably a lot. How about we turn down the heat, everyone?

There's been a sustained pattern of incidents. If Anthropic were truly serious about not wanting to take people's money, then they would have put in place whatever review processes were necessary to stop this from happening. So regardless of whether or not they specifically intend to cause harm, they're willingly letting it happen, which is just about as bad.

Yes, it's reasonable to turn down the heat. But it's also reasonable for people to be upset when their money is taken from them, and when the company that does so is effectively beyond persecution for doing so.

Re: Claude Code refuses requests or charges extra if your commits mention "OpenClaw"

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Post by duped »

dmd wrote: post #3

I really want to stick with A\ given everything known about Altman, but man are they speedrunning the "how to destroy your reputation" guidebook.

I think people inside the tech bubble don't realize that AI companies are considered villainous by the public. So there's no reputation to destroy.
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